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On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 9:00 PM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
> I ended up with WD-40 Degreaser; no rinsing required (the gate is in
> dirt). Funny thing, rattle-can paint is about as scarce as toilet paper
> for some reason; HomeDepot had been picked clean in spite of what their
> website claimed and Lowe's wasn't much better but I found enough to do
> the job (I hope). While I was looking at paint at both stores several
> groups of people came in and bought a bunch of cans; has everybody
> decided to re-paint everything while on 'lockdown?'
>
> Bob
>
> On 6/15/2020 2:43 PM, Donald H Locker wrote:
> > Yep; looks like 2-Butoxyethanol (EGME) is no longer used - it has
> > unhealthy side-effects. Nyco has switched to 3-hydroxybytyrate; Simple
> > Green now uses Ethoxylated Alcohol; Fantastik is off to [something else]
> > and 409 uses lauryldimethylamine oxide for their surfactant.
> >
> > Donald.
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> > On 2020-06-15 12:16 p.m., Bob Spidell wrote:
> >> Thanks for the replies, guys. The gate was fabbed by a friend who works
> >> for me sometimes (he's a garage door contractor). It's raw steel, so I
> >> think I'll go with an off-the-shelf degreaser and maybe an acetone
> >> follow-up (prob go with the Klean-Strip). It's gonna be a rattle-can
> >> paint job, so nothing fancy.
> >>
> >> I checked a few products with 2-Butoxyethanol didn't see any
> >> products--with labels I could see--containing it. It appears the
> >> environmentalists might have taken issue with it.
> >> Bob
> >>
> >> On 6/14/2020 9:42 PM, Brian Kemp wrote:
> >>> Bob - Since it is a new gate you had built, can you ask the supplier
> >>> what they recommend? I'd start with your favorite cleaner/degreaser
> >>> then use a phosphoric acid "metal prep" product. I did this on a
> >>> second hand roll bar that was a bit rusty then sprayed with an epoxy
> >>> paint. Still looks good after 20+ years.
> >>>
> >>> Here is a sample product that looks like what I used:
> >>>
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Klean-Strip-1-Gal-Concrete-Etch-Metal-Prep-Rust-Inhibitor-GKPA30220/100406369
> >>>
> >>> or
> >>>
> https://www.lowes.com/pd/Klean-Strip-Concrete-and-Metal-Prep-1-GAL/1001456348
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Note that if the iron was galvanized, you have different directions.
> >>> Here is one of the search returns on painting galvanized metal:
> >>>
> https://www.dunnedwards.com/professional/painting-contractors/under-the-lid/painting-galvanized-steel
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Brian
> >>>
> >>> On 6/14/2020 1:09 PM, Bob Spidell wrote:
> >>>> Listers,
> >>>>
> >>>> I've had a new iron gate built for our ranch. I'll paint it using
> >>>> Rustoleum self-etching primer and enamel; what is the List wisdom on
> >>>> the best prep/cleaner: acetone, brake cleaner, lacquer thinner, etc.?
> >>>> I know they'd all work pretty well; any favorites? Drawbacks? Note
> >>>> the iron was protected with some sort of oil/grease/wax.
> >>>>
> >>>> TIA,
> >>>> Bob
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Protestors need it for the graffiti art.<div><br></div></d=
iv><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On =
Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 9:00 PM Bob Spidell <<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@com=
cast.net">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(2=
04,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I ended up with WD-40 Degreaser; no rinsing r=
equired (the gate is in <br>
dirt). Funny thing, rattle-can paint is about as scarce as toilet paper <br=
>
for some reason; HomeDepot had been picked clean in spite of what their <br=
>
website claimed and Lowe's wasn't much better but I found enough to=
do <br>
the job (I hope). While I was looking at paint at both stores several <br>
groups of people came in and bought a bunch of cans; has everybody <br>
decided to re-paint everything while on 'lockdown?'<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
On 6/15/2020 2:43 PM, Donald H Locker wrote:<br>
> Yep; looks like 2-Butoxyethanol (EGME) is no longer used - it has<br>
> unhealthy side-effects. Nyco has switched to 3-hydroxybytyrate; Simple=
<br>
> Green now uses Ethoxylated Alcohol; Fantastik is off to [something els=
e]<br>
> and 409 uses lauryldimethylamine oxide for their surfactant.<br>
><br>
> Donald.<br>
> --<br>
> *Plain Text* email -- it's an accessibility issue<br>
> () no proprietary attachments; no html mail<br>
> /\ <<a href=3D"https://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil.=
shtml" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.georgedillon.com/we=
b/html_email_is_evil.shtml</a>><br>
><br>
> On 2020-06-15 12:16 p.m., Bob Spidell wrote:<br>
>> Thanks for the replies, guys. The gate was fabbed by a friend who =
works<br>
>> for me sometimes (he's a garage door contractor). It's raw=
steel, so I<br>
>> think I'll go with an off-the-shelf degreaser and maybe an ace=
tone<br>
>> follow-up (prob go with the Klean-Strip). It's gonna be a ratt=
le-can<br>
>> paint job, so nothing fancy.<br>
>><br>
>> I checked a few products with 2-Butoxyethanol didn't see any<b=
r>
>> products--with labels I could see--containing it. It appears the<b=
r>
>> environmentalists might have taken issue with it.<br>
>> Bob<br>
>><br>
>> On 6/14/2020 9:42 PM, Brian Kemp wrote:<br>
>>> Bob - Since it is a new gate you had built, can you ask the su=
pplier<br>
>>> what they recommend?=C2=A0 I'd start with your favorite cl=
eaner/degreaser<br>
>>> then use a phosphoric acid "metal prep" product.=C2=
=A0 I did this on a<br>
>>> second hand roll bar that was a bit rusty then sprayed with an=
epoxy<br>
>>> paint.=C2=A0 Still looks good after 20+ years.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Here is a sample product that looks like what I used:<br>
>>> <a href=3D"https://www.homedepot.com/p/Klean-Strip-1-Gal-Concr=
ete-Etch-Metal-Prep-Rust-Inhibitor-GKPA30220/100406369" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">https://www.homedepot.com/p/Klean-Strip-1-Gal-Concrete-Et=
ch-Metal-Prep-Rust-Inhibitor-GKPA30220/100406369</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> or<br>
>>> <a href=3D"https://www.lowes.com/pd/Klean-Strip-Concrete-and-M=
etal-Prep-1-GAL/1001456348" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://ww=
w.lowes.com/pd/Klean-Strip-Concrete-and-Metal-Prep-1-GAL/1001456348</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Note that if the iron was galvanized, you have different direc=
tions.<br>
>>> Here is one of the search returns on painting galvanized metal=
:<br>
>>> <a href=3D"https://www.dunnedwards.com/professional/painting-c=
ontractors/under-the-lid/painting-galvanized-steel" rel=3D"noreferrer" targ=
et=3D"_blank">https://www.dunnedwards.com/professional/painting-contractors=
/under-the-lid/painting-galvanized-steel</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Brian<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 6/14/2020 1:09 PM, Bob Spidell wrote:<br>
>>>> Listers,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I've had a new iron gate built for our ranch. I'll=
paint it using<br>
>>>> Rustoleum self-etching primer and enamel; what is the List=
wisdom on<br>
>>>> the best prep/cleaner: acetone, brake cleaner, lacquer thi=
nner, etc.?<br>
>>>> I know they'd all work pretty well; any favorites? Dra=
wbacks? Note<br>
>>>> the iron was protected with some sort of oil/grease/wax.<b=
r>
>>>><br>
>>>> TIA,<br>
>>>> Bob<br>
>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <a href=3D"mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_bla=
nk">Shop-talk@autox.team.net</a><br>
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