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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] OT flash drives
From: Scott Hall via Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 13:40:13 -0500
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I think I'm a late adopter and certainly not as sophisticated as I'd like,
but I bought and finally put drives in a QNAP 3-bay NAS (networked attached
storage). It's using RAID5 so it can tolerate one drive failure without
losing the data. I'm now looking for an online backup for that, my thought
being that even if the NAS dies I'll have it backed up as well.

The issue I'm having is that the NAS holds 8TB of files and cloud backup of
8TB is expensive. Or more expensive than I thought it would be, anyway.

For 512 GB, I'd think you could get a NAS with RAID6 (I think, Google it
and don't listen to me) that tolerates two drive failures and a cheap
online backup system. I'd sleep pretty well with that setup. And 512GB HDDs
are downright cheap any more.

The thing I bought says it'll auto-backup stuff from independent machines.
Or rather, I assume you install a utility on the individual computers and
schedule backups. Seems pretty nifty, even if I don't plan on using it.

Scott

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 7:26 AM Tim . via Shop-talk <
shop-talk@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Sending this inquiry to you all since I know there are more than a few IT
> guys in this group.....
>
> I bought three 512GB flash drives for archiving here at work. One locked
> up in each of our offices and one for me to add to files as necessary as
> files are amended. They have approximately 450GB on them.
>
> One of the three failed as soon as I finished filling it. I bought a
> different brand and made a replacement copy for the safe in our Madison
> office. A second, the same brand as the first one that failed is locked up
> in our MKE office and will also be replaced now because the third one (the
> one that has amended archived files) is also failing. I am having a hard
> time retrieving the amended files before this drive takes a final crap on
> me. It took over 15 hours to pull one 87MB file from the dying drive. I
> can't even attempt to pull more than one file at a time. Not that this
> should matter, but the files are mixed word, pdf, saved outlook emails and
> miscellaneous audio or video files and possibly other items.
>
> What I am wondering/hoping is that someone might know of a solution to
> this nearly impossible retrieval process. Or am I just screwed here?
>
> Next year we will be storing everything in the cloud so I won't have to
> deal with this PITA process.
>
> Thanks
> tim
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I think I&#39;m a late adopter and certainly not as sophis=
ticated as I&#39;d like, but I bought and finally put drives in a QNAP 3-ba=
y NAS (networked attached storage). It&#39;s using RAID5 so it can tolerate=
 one drive failure without losing the data. I&#39;m now looking for an onli=
ne backup for that, my thought being that even if the NAS dies I&#39;ll hav=
e it backed up as well.<div><br></div><div>The issue I&#39;m having is that=
 the NAS holds 8TB of files and cloud backup of 8TB is expensive. Or more e=
xpensive than I thought it would be, anyway.</div><div><br></div><div>For 5=
12 GB, I&#39;d think you could get a NAS with RAID6 (I think, Google it and=
 don&#39;t listen to me) that tolerates two drive failures and a cheap onli=
ne backup system. I&#39;d sleep pretty well with that setup. And 512GB HDDs=
 are downright cheap any more.</div><div><br></div><div>The thing I bought =
says it&#39;ll auto-backup stuff from independent machines. Or rather, I as=
sume you install a utility on the individual computers and schedule backups=
. Seems pretty nifty, even if I don&#39;t plan on using it.</div><div><br>S=
cott</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gm=
ail_attr">On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 7:26 AM Tim . via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net";>shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.=
8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">




<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
Sending this inquiry to you all since I know there are more than a few IT g=
uys in this group.....</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
I bought three 512GB flash drives for archiving here at work. One locked up=
 in each of our offices and one for me to add to files as necessary as file=
s are amended. They have approximately 450GB on them.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
One of the three failed as soon as I finished filling it. I bought a differ=
ent brand and made a replacement copy for the safe in our Madison office. A=
 second, the same brand as the first one that failed is locked up in our MK=
E office and will also be replaced
 now because the third one (the one that has amended archived files) is als=
o failing. I am having a hard time retrieving the amended files before this=
 drive takes a final crap on me. It took over 15 hours to pull one 87MB fil=
e from the dying drive. I can&#39;t
 even attempt to pull more than one file at a time. Not that this should ma=
tter, but the files are mixed word, pdf, saved outlook emails and miscellan=
eous audio or video files and possibly other items.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
What I am wondering/hoping is that someone might know of a solution to this=
 nearly impossible retrieval process. Or am I just screwed here?=C2=A0</div=
>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
Next year we will be storing everything in the cloud so I won&#39;t have to=
 deal with this PITA process.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
Thanks</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
tim</div>
</div>

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