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To: Mark Andy <marka@maracing.com> definitions=2019-04-29_08:, , signatures=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1812120000 definitions=main-1904290103
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] DeWalt 18V battery replacement
From: Pat Horne via Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 09:40:20 -0500
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Mark, I considered that route but I don=E2=80=99t have as much need for the t=
ools as I did when I volunteered weekly at Habitat. I know that is blasphemy=
, but I=E2=80=99m now 71 @ mostly need the tools around the place so a tool u=
pgrade isn=E2=80=99t worth it.=20

Thanks for the suggestion though!

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne=20
We support Habitat for Humanity


On Apr 29, 2019, at 9:30 AM, Mark Andy <marka@maracing.com> wrote:

Howdy,

I don't know how big a deal this really is, but I've heard that the tools de=
signed for Li-Ion batteries have protection circuits / smarts so that they d=
on't over-discharge the Li-Ion battery or whatever.  I've certainly heard of=
 Li-Ion batteries catching fire / whatever if they're abused.

Because of that, when my 18v NiCad Milwaukee stuff needed some love about 4 m=
onths back I bit the bullet and upgraded to the new Li-Ion tool hotness.  It=
 wasn't the cheapest thing I've ever done, but I'm super happy about the imp=
rovements in cordless tools in past the 8 to 15 years.  Much lighter weight,=
 more power, and more runtime.  Hard to go wrong with any of that.  :-)

Mark

> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:07 AM Pat Horne via Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.=
team.net> wrote:
> Thanks, Eric. I=E2=80=99ve checked with some of the rebuilders & they say t=
hey can only do NiCad batteries.  I really like the reduced weight of the Li=
-Ion batteries so want to stay with them if possible. I have a couple coming=
 in today that I bought on Amazon so I=E2=80=99ll be able to check them out s=
oon. If desired I can post how they work our. The last Ni-Mh batteries I bou=
ght worked fine until they develop a bad connection from being dropped. Repa=
ired the connection & they worked again.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Peace,
>=20
> Pat
>=20
> =20
>=20
> From: eric@megageek.com [mailto:eric@megageek.com]=20
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 9:00 AM
> To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net
> Cc: Pat Horne
> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] DeWalt 18V battery replacement
>=20
> =20
>=20
> I used a service that did the battery replacement.  For the hassle of send=
ing my unit in, waiting and getting it back, then having the contacts corrod=
e within a year, I wouldn't do it again.=20
>=20
> I would just do it myself.  You can buy the battery cells for cheap (and u=
pgrade Ahr) and solder them yourself.  It's fairly straight  forward.=20
>=20
>=20
> Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
> Tech Viper
> "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational b=
eing are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo E=
merson=20
> -Who is John Galt?=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> From:        Pat Horne via Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>=20
> To:        <shop-talk@autox.team.net>=20
> Date:        04/29/2019 09:50 AM=20
> Subject:        [Shop-talk] DeWalt 18V battery replacement=20
> Sent by:        "Shop-talk" <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net>
>=20
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> I=E2=80=99ve been using the DeWalt 18v tools for many years. Battery techn=
ology has moved from NiCad through NMh to Li-Ion. It seems that DeWalt has q=
uit making 18V batteries & now supports their 18v tools using an adapter tha=
t allows their 20v Li-Ion batteries to be used in the 18v tools. I have one o=
f the adapters and, while it works, makes the tools a bit awkward. There are=
 after-market 18v li-Ion batteries on the market. Does anyone have experienc=
e with any of them, good or bad?=20
>  =20
> Thanks in advance.=20
>  =20
> Peace,=20
> Pat_______________________________________________
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Mark, I considered that route but I don=E2=80=
=99t have as much need for the tools as I did when I volunteered weekly at H=
abitat. I know that is blasphemy, but I=E2=80=99m now 71 @ mostly need the t=
ools around the place so a tool upgrade isn=E2=80=99t worth it.&nbsp;<div><b=
r></div><div>Thanks for the suggestion though!<br><br>Peace,</div><div>Pat</=
div><div><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>=
We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
br>On Apr 29, 2019, at 9:30 AM, Mark Andy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:marka@maraci=
ng.com">marka@maracing.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">Howdy,<div><br></div><div>I don't know how big a deal this real=
ly is, but I've heard that the tools designed for Li-Ion batteries have prot=
ection circuits / smarts so that they don't over-discharge the Li-Ion batter=
y or whatever.&nbsp; I've certainly heard of Li-Ion batteries catching fire /=
 whatever if they're abused.<br><br>Because of that, when my 18v NiCad Milwa=
ukee stuff needed some love about 4 months back I bit the bullet and upgrade=
d to the new Li-Ion tool hotness.&nbsp; It wasn't the cheapest thing I've ev=
er done, but I'm super happy about the improvements in cordless tools in pas=
t the 8 to 15 years.&nbsp; Much lighter weight, more power, and more runtime=
.&nbsp; Hard to go wrong with any of that.&nbsp; :-)<br><br>Mark</div></div>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon,=
 Apr 29, 2019 at 10:07 AM Pat Horne via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shop=
-talk@autox.team.net">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1=
px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D=
"gmail-m_456539296947012543WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Thanks,=
 Eric. I=E2=80=99ve checked with some of the rebuilders &amp; they say they c=
an only do NiCad batteries.&nbsp; I really like the reduced weight of the Li=
-Ion batteries so want to stay with them if possible. I have a couple coming=
 in today that I bought on Amazon so I=E2=80=99ll be able to check them out s=
oon. If desired I can post how they work our. The last Ni-Mh batteries I bou=
ght worked fine until they develop a bad connection from being dropped. Repa=
ired the connection &amp; they worked again. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-seri=
f;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,=
73,125)">Peace,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Pat<u><=
/u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;fo=
nt-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></spa=
n></p><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;bo=
rder-top:1pt solid rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</s=
pan></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> <a hre=
f=3D"mailto:eric@megageek.com"; target=3D"_blank">eric@megageek.com</a> [mail=
to:<a href=3D"mailto:eric@megageek.com"; target=3D"_blank">eric@megageek.com<=
/a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 29, 2019 9:00 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D=
"mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">Shop-talk@autox.team.net=
</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Pat Horne<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] DeWalt 18V b=
attery replacement<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u><=
/u>&nbsp;<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fon=
t-family:Arial,sans-serif">I used a service that did the battery replacement=
.&nbsp; For the hassle of sending my unit in, waiting and getting it back, t=
hen having the contacts corrode within a year, I wouldn't do it again.</span=
> <br><br><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I woul=
d just do it myself.&nbsp; You can buy the battery cells for cheap (and upgr=
ade Ahr) and solder them yourself.&nbsp; It's fairly straight &nbsp;forward.=
</span> <br><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><br>=
<br>Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.<br>Tech Viper<br>"Be as b=
eneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are t=
renched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson <b=
r>-Who is John Galt?</span> <br><br><br><br><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;f=
ont-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(95,95,95)">From: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Pat=
 Horne via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net"; target=3D=
"_blank">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</span> <br><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(95,95,95)">To: &nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp; &nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-ser=
if">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">shop-t=
alk@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</span> <br><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-fa=
mily:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(95,95,95)">Date: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;=
</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">04/29/20=
19 09:50 AM</span> <br><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif;color:rgb(95,95,95)">Subject: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</span><span=
 style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">[Shop-talk] DeWalt 1=
8V battery replacement</span> <br><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family=
:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(95,95,95)">Sent by: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<=
/span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">"Shop-tal=
k" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"=
>shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</span> <u></u><u></u></p><div clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center"><hr size=3D"2" w=
idth=3D"100%" noshade=3D"" style=3D"color:rgb(160,160,160)" align=3D"center"=
></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><br><br><br><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I=E2=80=99ve been u=
sing the DeWalt 18v tools for many years. Battery technology has moved from N=
iCad through NMh to Li-Ion. It seems that DeWalt has quit making 18V batteri=
es &amp; now supports their 18v tools using an adapter that allows their 20v=
 Li-Ion batteries to be used in the 18v tools. I have one of the adapters an=
d, while it works, makes the tools a bit awkward. There are after-market 18v=
 li-Ion batteries on the market. Does anyone have experience with any of the=
m, good or bad?</span> <br><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri=
,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span> <br><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Cal=
ibri,sans-serif">Thanks in advance.</span> <br><span style=3D"font-size:10pt=
;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span> <br><span style=3D"font-size:=
10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Peace,</span> <br><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Pat</span><tt><span style=3D"font-s=
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