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To: Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal@gmail.com>, "shop-talk@autox.team.net" <Shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Impact wrenches (heavy duty)
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Judging from your description, =93Snowpocalypse(TM) here (that's three inch=
es in this area, for the uninitiated)=94 I will guess you live in the Seatt=
le area.  I had the same flat tire crap on day one of Snowpocalypse up in W=
oodinville.  But I did not have some NASCAR pit crew guy stop and help.  It=
 was about 7AM.  Mine was more fumbling with standard old F150 crap scatter=
 about.

And who designed the tire winch, I think I have a scar from where that went=
 wrong.

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From: Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Scott Hall =
via Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 12:53:20 PM
To: shop-talk@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Impact wrenches (heavy duty)

Oh gosh. I didn't even think about cordless.

So...maybe fifteen years ago I had a whole slew of Milwaukee 18v tools, amo=
ng them an impact wrench. It didn't suck, but it wasn't impressive either. =
The batteries weren't anything to write home about and I lost several quick=
ly and was always replacing them and they were expensive. I kind of wrote o=
ff the whole idea of cordless except for a (very) light duty drill/driver..=
.which I never need, so I don't have one.

Then, about a month ago when we got Snowpocalypse(TM) here (that's three in=
ches in this area, for the uninitiated) my F250 rear tire just...exploded o=
n the interstate. It was more the cold and the wind than the snow, and whil=
e I'm grumbling and crawling around the cab gathering tools (the jack and s=
ome of its tools live under one rear seat, other tools live under the other=
 rear seat, the key for the spare wheel hoist is under every insurance card=
 I've ever had--except the current one, of course--in the glove compartment=
, etc.) Triple-A pulls in in front me.

I hadn't called Triple-A. I was perplexed.

Dude jumps out, snatches a race jack and a plastic box from the back of his=
 truck. Before I can say anything, he says, "looks like you're havin' some =
trouble, huh?" I nod. He yells, "I do this all day! Why don't you get the t=
ire and I'll get your wheel off!"

I'm already freezing my ass off, so I just grab the tire winch tools and ge=
t at it. Literally before I have the handle in the gear, he's got the jack =
under the axle and the truck is in the air. He pops open the plastic box an=
d it's a Milwaukee Fuel impact and a set of sockets.

My heart sinks--I'm already feeling bad for this guy in the cold trying to =
help, and how he's going to have to screw with this lightweight cordless im=
pact on the F250--

The wheel's already off. It was like watching a NASCAR pit stop. Seriously.=
 My 2131 can lag a little on those lug nuts before spinning them. The Fuel =
cordless just ripped them RIGHT THE HELL OFF. Damnedest thing I've ever see=
n. My jaw dropped.

So now I'm cranking on the winch because we're waiting on *me* and he's got=
 the rim in the bed and is trying not to look like I'm the limiting reagent=
 here.

I get the spare, he pops it on, and the damn thing zips the nuts on just ab=
out as fast. No lagging at all. No slow BAP-BAP-BAP as it snugs up. Sounded=
 like a woodpecker, if the woodpecker was ten feet tall and angry at someth=
ing.

It's freezing, but I'm staring at The Impact Wrench of The Gods, just stand=
ing there. He sees me staring, grins, and says, "yeah, I love that thing! H=
ave a great afternoon!"

And then he was gone. The whole thing happened so quickly I was left wonder=
ing if it even happened at all.

Anyway, I made a note to myself--which I forgot until now--to go out and bu=
y one of those things, because goddamn was that thing amazing. I have no af=
filiation with Milwaukee, and I wasn't even aware there was a 'Fuel' line o=
f cordless tools, but I will have that impact wrench. It was UNREAL.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 9:31 AM Joe Szwed via Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.te=
I know you said air impact but you may want to look into the Milwaukee M18 =
Fuel cordless impact.  They claim 1400 ft-lbs of torque breaking and 1000 f=
t-lbs tightening.  I follow a couple heavy duty mechanics groups and this c=
ordless impact gets high scores with many guys preferring it over their pne=
umatic.  There is even a 3/4" version available.  I know I plan on replacin=
g my 18V DeWalt with one once I have the spare cash.

Joe

On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 9:15 PM eric--- via Shop-talk <

> Ok,  I know this is a new religious topic here, but I'm looking for a too=
l
> recommendation.  Stay with me.
>
>
>  So I ended up buying a new (to me) dump body F350 with a powerstroke
> diesel. It only had one owner, and was well maintained (he gave me every
> single record for it.)
>
> So I am starting to do my "once over" before I put it in service.  One of
> the thing is removing the wheels and checking the brakes.  Well, the
> mechanic that did this last had a really HD torque wrench.  I managed to
> eventually get every nut off, but it made it clear that I need a more
> powerfully impact wrench.
>
> So I come to the experts.  I'm looking for a heavy duty air impact
> wrench.  I prefer 1/2, but I'm willing to listen to any advice on moving =
up
> to 3/4.
>
> I'm looking for a tool to use when my 'normal' impact can't handle to job=
,
> so it will not be used a ton.
>
> Any ideas?  Price isn't much of a concern as it seems even the top end
> ones aren't outrageous.  (Note- I'm not a Snap on junkie that likes over
> priced brand names.)
>
>
> Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
> Tech Viper
> "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational
> being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph
> Waldo Emerson
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Judging from your description, =93Snowpocalypse(TM) =
here (that's three inches in this area, for the uninitiated)=94 I will gues=
s you live in the Seattle area.&nbsp; I had the same flat tire crap on day =
one of Snowpocalypse up in Woodinville.&nbsp; But
 I did not have some NASCAR pit crew guy stop and help.&nbsp; It was about =
7AM.&nbsp; Mine was more fumbling with standard old F150 crap scatter about=
.<br>
<br>
And who designed the tire winch, I think I have a scar from where that went=
 wrong.</p>
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<div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" st=
yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Shop-talk &lt;shop-ta=
lk-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; on behalf of Scott Hall via Shop-talk &lt;sho=
p-talk@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 25, 2019 12:53:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> shop-talk@autox.team.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Impact wrenches (heavy duty)</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Oh gosh. I didn't even think about cordless.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So...maybe fifteen years ago I had a whole slew of Milwaukee 18v tools=
, among them an impact wrench. It didn't suck, but it wasn't impressive eit=
her. The batteries weren't anything to write home about and I lost several =
quickly and was always replacing
 them and they were expensive. I kind of wrote off the whole idea of cordle=
ss except for a (very) light duty drill/driver...which I never need, so I d=
on't have one.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Then, about a month ago when we got Snowpocalypse(TM) here (that's thr=
ee inches in this area, for the uninitiated) my F250 rear tire just...explo=
ded on the interstate. It was more the cold and the wind than the snow, and=
 while I'm grumbling and crawling
 around the cab gathering tools (the jack and some of its tools live under =
one rear seat, other tools live under the other rear seat, the key for the =
spare wheel hoist is under every insurance card I've ever had--except the c=
urrent one, of course--in the glove
 compartment, etc.) Triple-A pulls in in front me.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I hadn't called Triple-A. I was perplexed.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Dude jumps out, snatches a race jack and a plastic box from the back o=
f his truck. Before I can say anything, he says, &quot;looks like you're ha=
vin' some trouble, huh?&quot; I nod. He yells, &quot;I do this all day! Why=
 don't you get the tire and I'll get your wheel
 off!&quot;</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I'm already freezing my ass off, so I just grab the tire winch tools a=
nd get at it. Literally before I have the handle in the gear, he's got the =
jack under the axle and the truck is in the air. He pops open the plastic b=
ox and it's a Milwaukee Fuel impact
 and a set of sockets.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>My heart sinks--I'm already feeling bad for this guy in the cold tryin=
g to help, and how he's going to have to screw with this lightweight cordle=
ss impact on the F250--</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The wheel's already off. It was like watching a NASCAR pit stop. Serio=
usly. My 2131 can lag a little on those lug nuts before spinning them. The =
Fuel cordless just ripped them RIGHT THE HELL OFF. Damnedest thing I've eve=
r seen. My jaw dropped.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So now I'm cranking on the winch because we're waiting on *me* and he'=
s got the rim in the bed and is trying not to look like I'm the limiting re=
agent here.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I get the spare, he pops it on, and the damn thing zips the nuts on ju=
st about as fast. No lagging at all. No slow BAP-BAP-BAP as it snugs up. So=
unded like a woodpecker, if the woodpecker was ten feet tall and angry at s=
omething.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It's freezing, but I'm staring at The Impact Wrench of The Gods, just =
standing there. He sees me staring, grins, and says, &quot;yeah, I love tha=
t thing! Have a great afternoon!&quot;</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>And then he was gone. The whole thing happened so quickly I was left w=
ondering if it even happened at all.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Anyway, I made a note to myself--which I forgot until now--to go out a=
nd buy one of those things, because goddamn was that thing amazing. I have =
no affiliation with Milwaukee, and I wasn't even aware there was a 'Fuel' l=
ine of cordless tools, but I will
 have that impact wrench. It was UNREAL.</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 9:31 AM Joe S=
zwed via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net";>shop-tal=
k@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">I know you said air impact but you may want to look into t=
he Milwaukee M18 Fuel cordless impact.&nbsp; They claim 1400 ft-lbs of torq=
ue breaking and 1000 ft-lbs tightening.&nbsp; I follow a couple heavy duty =
mechanics groups and this cordless impact gets
 high scores with many guys preferring it over their pneumatic.&nbsp; There=
 is even a 3/4&quot; version available.&nbsp; I know I plan on replacing my=
 18V DeWalt with one once I have the spare cash.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Joe<br>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 9:15 PM eric--- via Shop-talk &lt;<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">shop-talk@aut=
ox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Ok,&nbsp; I know this is a new religious topic here, but I'm looking f=
or a tool<br>
&gt; recommendation.&nbsp; Stay with me.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp; So I ended up buying a new (to me) dump body F350 with a powerst=
roke<br>
&gt; diesel. It only had one owner, and was well maintained (he gave me eve=
ry<br>
&gt; single record for it.)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; So I am starting to do my &quot;once over&quot; before I put it in ser=
vice.&nbsp; One of<br>
&gt; the thing is removing the wheels and checking the brakes.&nbsp; Well, =
the<br>
&gt; mechanic that did this last had a really HD torque wrench.&nbsp; I man=
aged to<br>
&gt; eventually get every nut off, but it made it clear that I need a more<=
br>
&gt; powerfully impact wrench.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; So I come to the experts.&nbsp; I'm looking for a heavy duty air impac=
t<br>
&gt; wrench.&nbsp; I prefer 1/2, but I'm willing to listen to any advice on=
 moving up<br>
&gt; to 3/4.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I'm looking for a tool to use when my 'normal' impact can't handle to =
job,<br>
&gt; so it will not be used a ton.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Any ideas?&nbsp; Price isn't much of a concern as it seems even the to=
p end<br>
&gt; ones aren't outrageous.&nbsp; (Note- I'm not a Snap on junkie that lik=
es over<br>
&gt; priced brand names.)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.<br>
&gt; Tech Viper<br>
&gt; &quot;Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a =
rational<br>
&gt; being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory.&quot; =
Ralph<br>
&gt; Waldo Emerson&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>
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