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Re: [Shop-talk] Battery Starter/Charger

To: jonnic1947 <nick@landform.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Battery Starter/Charger
From: Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 15:24:11 -0400
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Opps.  Just looked at the JUMPSTARTA more closely and see that it is a =
"Mains Operated Starter=E2=80=9D, not a portable battery pack, which is =
what it resembled.  So, ignore my previous comment that "it will almost =
definitely be a transformer=E2=80=9D.  That is not correct and Nick is =
kind not to shame me for it.


> On Sep 8, 2018, at 9:37 AM, jonnic1947 <nick@landform.co.uk> wrote:
>=20
> That's right Pat. There's also the 50hz v 60hz difference to think =
about.=20
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> However the firm who make them are competent engineers and I'm sure =
that an email query would result in a proper solution. One of the =
advantages of dealing with someone who actually makes something rather =
than a multinational venture capital conglomerate...
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> Nick
>=20
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> ---- On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 12:56:09 +0000 Pat Horne =
<patintexas@icloud.com> wrote ----
>=20
> One thing about the UK unit is that it will probably require 220v =
service.=20
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> Peace,
> Pat
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> Pat Horne=20
> We support Caldwell County Habitat for Humanity
>=20
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> On Sep 7, 2018, at 3:55 PM, jonnic1947 <nick@landform.co.uk =
> This is not exactly what is being discussed but I bought one 30+ years =
ago and it has never failed on any flat battery that was not completely =
sulphated. On diesel engines up to 6 litre capacity.
>=20
> http://www.bcet.co.uk/jumpastarta-starter-motor.html =
<http://www.bcet.co.uk/jumpastarta-starter-motor.html>
>=20
> Maybe expensive but with the GBP currently on the floor versus the USD =
there's no better time to buy.
>=20
> Your only problem will be that any neighbour with a poor starting car =
will always be wanting to borrow it.
>=20
> Nick Brearley
>=20
>=20
> ---- On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 00:07:26 +0000 <eric@megageek.com =
>=20
> Bob,=20
> Another option is what I do.  I hate those anemic jump boxes.  They =
are pretty much just an undersized battery with cables attached.=20
>=20
> What I did was get some quick disconnection battery terminals like =
these, but heavier duty...=20
> =
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Anderson-SB120-Connector-Kit-Blue-2-Awg-6801G1/27=
0508372567 =
<https://www.ebay.com/itm/Anderson-SB120-Connector-Kit-Blue-2-Awg-6801G1/2=
70508372567>=20
>=20
>=20
> Then I put them on  my zero turn mower.  The battery I use in that =
tractor is a normal car sized fit and I put a high CCA battery in it.=20
>=20
> When I need to jump start something, I can quickly remove it from the =
tractor, and attach the special jumper cable I made (with one end having =
that connector) to the battery and I'm in business.=20
>=20
> Sometimes I don't even need to remove the battery from the tractor.=20
>=20
> If you don't have a tractor (or other toy) that takes a car sized =
battery, and you can't find a proper jump charger, just buy a normal car =
battery and trickle charger.  It beats the jump box because it's cheaper =
with more power.=20
>=20
> Just another option.
>=20
> Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
> Tech Viper
> "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a =
rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your =
territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson =
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Opps.=
 &nbsp;Just looked at the&nbsp;JUMPSTARTA more closely and see that it =
is a "Mains Operated Starter=E2=80=9D, not a portable battery pack, =
which is what it resembled. &nbsp;So, ignore my previous comment that =
"it will almost definitely be a transformer=E2=80=9D. &nbsp;That is not =
correct and Nick is kind not to shame me for it.<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Sep 8, 2018, at 9:37 AM, jonnic1947 &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:nick@landform.co.uk"; class=3D"">nick@landform.co.uk</a>&gt;=
 wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta=
 content=3D"text/html;charset=3DUTF-8" http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"font-size:10pt;color:#00000;" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">That's right Pat. There's also the 50hz v =
60hz difference to think about. <br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">However the firm who make them are =
competent engineers and I'm sure that an email query would result in a =
proper solution. One of the advantages of dealing with someone who =
actually makes something rather than a multinational venture capital =
conglomerate...<br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Nick</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"zmail_extra"><div id=3D"Zm-_Id_-Sgn1" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">---- On =
Sat, 08 Sep 2018 12:56:09 +0000&nbsp;<b class=3D"">Pat Horne &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:patintexas@icloud.com"; =
class=3D"">patintexas@icloud.com</a>&gt;</b> wrote ----<br =
class=3D""></div></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><blockquote =
style=3D"border-left: 1px solid #cccccc; padding-left: 6px; margin:0 0 0 =
5px" class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><div class=3D"">One thing =
about the UK unit is that it will probably require 220v =
service.&nbsp;<br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Peace,<br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">Pat<br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">Pat Horne&nbsp;<br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">We support Caldwell County Habitat for =
Humanity<br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">On Sep 7, 2018, at 3:55 PM, jonnic1947 =
&lt;<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:nick@landform.co.uk"; =
class=3D"">nick@landform.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"font-size: 10pt" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">This is not exactly what is being discussed =
but I bought one 30+ years ago and it has never failed on any flat =
battery that was not completely sulphated. On diesel engines up to 6 =
litre capacity.<br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><a =
href=3D"http://www.bcet.co.uk/jumpastarta-starter-motor.html"; =
target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">http://www.bcet.co.uk/jumpastarta-starter-motor.html</a><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Maybe expensive but with the GBP currently on the floor =
versus the USD there's no better time to buy.<br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Your only problem will =
be that any neighbour with a poor starting car will always be wanting to =
borrow it.<br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Nick Brearley<br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"x_-1190513954zmail_extra"><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">---- On =
Fri, 07 Sep 2018 00:07:26 +0000&nbsp;<b class=3D"">&lt;<a =
target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:eric@megageek.com"; =
class=3D"">eric@megageek.com</a>&gt;</b> wrote ----<br =
class=3D""></div></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><blockquote =
style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 6px; =
margin: 0 0 0 5px" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><span =
class=3D"font" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><span class=3D"size" =
style=3D"font-size:13px">Bob,</span></span> <br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><span class=3D"font" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><span =
class=3D"size" style=3D"font-size:13px">Another option is what I do. =
&nbsp;I hate those anemic jump boxes. &nbsp;They are pretty much just an =
undersized battery with cables attached.</span></span> <br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><span class=3D"font" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><span =
class=3D"size" style=3D"font-size:13px">What I did was get some quick =
disconnection battery terminals like these, but heavier =
duty...</span></span> <br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><a =
href=3D"https://www.ebay.com/itm/Anderson-SB120-Connector-Kit-Blue-2-Awg-6=
801G1/270508372567" target=3D"_blank" class=3D""><span class=3D"font" =
style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><span class=3D"size" =
style=3D"font-size:13px">https://www.ebay.com/itm/Anderson-SB120-Connector=
-Kit-Blue-2-Awg-6801G1/270508372567</span></span></a> <br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><span class=3D"font" =
style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><span class=3D"size" =
style=3D"font-size:13px">Then I put them on &nbsp;my zero turn mower. =
&nbsp;The battery I use in that tractor is a normal car sized fit and I =
put a high CCA battery in it.</span></span> <br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><span class=3D"font" =
style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><span class=3D"size" =
style=3D"font-size:13px">When I need to jump start something, I can =
quickly remove it from the tractor, and attach the special jumper cable =
I made (with one end having that connector) to the battery and I'm in =
business.</span></span> <br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><span class=3D"font" =
style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><span class=3D"size" =
style=3D"font-size:13px">Sometimes I don't even need to remove the =
battery from the tractor.</span></span> <br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><span class=3D"font" =
style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><span class=3D"size" =
style=3D"font-size:13px">If you don't have a tractor (or other toy) that =
takes a car sized battery, and you can't find a proper jump charger, =
just buy a normal car battery and trickle charger. &nbsp;It beats the =
jump box because it's cheaper with more power.</span></span> <br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><span class=3D"font" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><span =
class=3D"size" style=3D"font-size:13px">Just another option.<br =
class=3D""> <br class=3D""> Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud =
Modem.<br class=3D""> Tech Viper<br class=3D""> "Be as beneficent as the =
sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, =
die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson =
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