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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] under cabinet lighting
From: <bjshov8@tx.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 17:28:17 +0000
He has combined a lot of the latest stuff-
Cree LED, 18650 rechargeable LiIon battery, small form factor, electronic 
driver circuit.  With good craftsmanship no doubt it would be a good light.  If 
it gets too hot in 10 minutes then he might be on the verge of going too far.  
Hand that to someone that doesn't know what they are doing and they can get in 
trouble.

I didn't get to the point of looking at his prices but with Streamlight, 
Pelican or Inova you will pay $100+ for similar features, with Surefire you 
will pay probably twice that, and those lights are all a bit less powerful.

I built what is called a "mag-85".  You take a common maglite, modify its 
socket/reflector/lens to resist heat, put in 8 or 9 high current AA NiMh 
batteries, and an 1185 medical builb, and you have a 30 or more watt bulb in 
your hand.  Lay it down on a car seat and it will melt through it.  I heard of 
someone that had one, a friend was over and wanted a light to go look for 
something in their car, he said "just pick one of those over there".  They 
picked the mag85, laid it on the seat while they were looking around, and 
burned a hole in their seat.

 
>   No financial interest, no nothing, just a extremely satisfied customer.
> 
>    Its not cheap but I bought a LED flashlight a few months ago from 
> this guy http://www.darksucks.com/  it is by far with NO competition 
> from any other flashlight I have ever seen, the brightest thing I have 
> ever owned/seen.  He uses the Cree lights, the thing is BRIGHT and 
> throws a long ways.  My 4 C cell Mag light throws a beam to my fence at 
> about 120-140ft. away, this flashlight illuminates that fence and the 
> yard before it (and scares the skunk away before my dog gets to him).
> 
>    I started following his blog only for the very cool, very 
> informative, great videos of his CNC operation and I was impressed 
> enough to buy a light from him... Its now called my "daystick"
> 
>      Like I said, no financial interest, no nothing, just a extremely 
> satisfied customer.
> 
>      mike
> 
> On 06/09/2011 06:31 PM, BJNoSHOV8 wrote:
> > I was interested in the LED flashlights and looked into them for 
> > awhile.  I found information on 2 different types of LED.  The first 
> > is the standard LED that comes in a range of sizes and is used as an 
> > indicator in various electronics, and also used in groups in cheaper 
> > flashlights.  These things are cheap and require around 1 or 1.5V to 
> > operate.  The second type are the "high power" Luxeon LED's that are 
> > used in the more powerful flashlights.  These require upwards of 4V to 
> > operate.  Usually a flashlight will use only one of these, and they 
> > can put out a lot of light.  Recently a similar LED has come on the 
> > market, called the Cree.  The better flashlights will have electronic 
> > circuitry that will maintain the voltage at the proper level for the 
> > LED, and these are relatively expensive.  Some flashlights do 
> > overdrive the LED's a bit in order to get more light out of them.  
> > This shortens the life some, but whether the life is 20,000 hours or 
> > 50,000 hours or 100,000 hours probably doesn't really matter, and even 
> > without overdriving them the Luxeon and Cree LED's can put out a lot 
> > of light.  Streamlight, Pelican, Surefire, Inova all make good 
> > flashlights using these LED's.  Even the new maglite's with LED's are 
> > pretty good lights.
> >
> >> Possibly it falls under the category of "seriously overvolt", but 
> >> there seemto be a lot of high-power LEDs on the market with much 
> >> shorter averagelifetimes.
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