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RE: Build it yourself Car Trailer

To: "Richard Boyce" <rboyce90@hotmail.com>, <epetrevich@relavis.com>
Subject: RE: Build it yourself Car Trailer
From: "Paul Mele" <Paul.Mele@usermail.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:39:36 -0500
thanks for your time on this project, RIchard

-----Original Message-----
From: shop-talk-owner@autox.team.net
[mailto:shop-talk-owner@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Richard Boyce
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:56 PM
To: epetrevich@relavis.com
Cc: shop-talk@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Build it yourself Car Trailer



I would like to thank all of you for the positive responses and
encouragement I have received. I had no idea that so many people would be
interested in this kind of stuff. I am more than happy to share what I have
learned with you. The first installment will soon be on it's way.
Inch- I will probably take you up on your offer to host it until I get a
website put up.Yes, there will be a website soon. I called in a favor from a
friend that does sites and hopefully it will be up soon. In the mean time
I'll have to do some drawings-I don't usually build from drawings so none
currently exist. I got in touch with the fellow who has the last trailer I
built and have made arrangements to take some pictures. These should be
posted soon. Again thanks to everyone.
                           Richard

>From: epetrevich@relavis.com
>Reply-To: epetrevich@relavis.com
>To: "Richard Boyce" <rboyce90@hotmail.com>
>CC: jdrush@enter.net, shop-talk@autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: Build it yourself Car Trailer
>Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 09:36:40 -0500
>
>I'll be more than happy to host it for you if you need a place to put it.
>
>As for what to call it?  How about.
>
>"Zen and the lost art of trailer building" ?  (ZenTrailers.com)  8>)
>
>just an idea.
>
>inch
>
>PS, if anyone has any shop related websites that they need hosted, I'll be
>more than happy to host them for free.
>(albeit, I don't think I'll do commerical ones yet)
>
>MailTo:epetrevich@relavis.com
>
>
>
>                     "Richard Boyce"
>                     <rboyce90@hotmail.co        To:     jdrush@enter.net
>                     m>                          cc:
>shop-talk@autox.team.net
>                     Sent by:                    Subject:     Re: Build it
>yourself Car Trailer
>                     shop-talk-owner@auto
>                     x.team.net
>
>
>                     11/19/00 08:25 PM
>                     Please respond to
>                     "Richard Boyce"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Thanks for the positive feedback. I have thought of building a web page.
>Any
>thoughts on what to call it? I would appreciate any suggestions as to the
>format,types of projects etc. that others would like to see. Suggestions?
>As
>to trailers and what not, I assume that most are interested in a dedicated
>car hauler.Or one that could be used for other things?  Or would you all
>like to start with something easier like an engine picker? Or both? I do
>have CAD ability if there is some interest in drawings. I just have to find
>the time to  sit down and draw it. Let me know what your interests are.
>
>
> >From: Jon & Deb Rush <jdrush@enter.net>
> >Reply-To: Jon & Deb Rush <jdrush@enter.net>
> >CC: shop-talk@autox.team.net
> >Subject: Re: Build it yourself Car Trailer
> >Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 16:33:23 -0500
> >
> >Build a web page. Experience like yours is widely valuable.
> >
> >Jon Rush
> >
> >Richard Boyce wrote:
> > >
> > > I would be glad to keep the trailer topic on list if the list doesn't
> >mind.
> > > My intention was to keep it off list if there wasn't much interest.
> > > Didn't want to get into discussions that others weren't interested
> > > in.Anybody on the list interested in building their own shop
>equipment,
> >such
> > > as engine pickers, motor stands, jack stands, fab tables and such.
>I've
> >been
> > > building this stuff for 30 years(among many other things) and would be
> >glad
> > > to share with all.These days my main interests are in chassis and roll
> >cage
> > > fabrication.
> > >
> > > >From: "Steve Hammatt" <shammatt@sos.net>
> > > >Reply-To: "Steve Hammatt" <shammatt@sos.net>
> > > >To: "Shop Talk NG" <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
> > > >Subject: Re: Build it yourself Car Trailer
> > > >Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 16:22:03 -0800
> > > >
> > > >Steve in Seattle
> > > >I am in the middle of putting together a tilt-bed aluminum trailer.
> >Some
> > > >time
> > > >ago I was on a Northwest Vintage Speedster Club weekend event in
> > > >eastern Washington and saw a BEAUTIFUL all-aluminum trailer.  In
> > > >searching out the details I found that it (and some 350+ like it) had
> >been
> > > >made in Arlington, WA (just north of Seattle) some 15 years ago.  It
> >had
> > > >been designed by a Boeing engineer (what isn't here in Boeing
> >country<g>)
> > > >and it was all aluminum except for the axels and running gear.  There
> >are
> > > >NO WELDS, only rivets and threaded fasteners.  Trailers tend to flex
> >and
> > > >welds will break (see jet airplane construction) and this trailer was
> >built
> > > >to
> > > >last.  It has roughly 12"x16" outboard 'boxes' that provide rigidity,
> > > >storage
> > > >cabinets and tandem wheel covers.  The 'boxes' are all riveted and
>made
> >to
> > > >very
> > > >close tolerances.  All the other pieces are stock channel, tube,
>sheet,
> > > >etc.
> > > >They were made to be drawn behind your Bluebird or Wanderlodge motor
> > > >homes, the 14' (some were 12') weighed less than 900 lb. and could
> >handle
> > > >over 5000 lb and were very expensive.
> > > >
> > > >They are no longer in production, but I did find a 12' model in
>Skagit
> >Co.
> > > >(where I live) for sale, but I wanted the longer 14' model and the
>one
> >for
> > > >sale had seen some rough usage.  Luckily I found the former shop
> >foreman
> > > >for the manufacturer and he has a 14' trailer (not for sale) and he
>had
> >the
> > > >two side boxes from the last production run, still unused and sitting
> >in
> > > >storage.
> > > >Needless to say, I now own the last pair of boxes and hopefully will
> >have
> > > >them
> > > >outfitted with all the running gear within the next couple of months.
> >If
> > > >you want
> > > >to see what I'm talking about, I live in Mount Vernon, just an hour
> >north
> > > >of
> > > >Seattle.  Let me know.........
> > > >Steve Hammatt
> > > >Mount Vernon, WA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Steven Shipley" <shiples@home.com>
> > > >To: "Richard Boyce" <rboyce90@hotmail.com>
> > > >Cc: <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
> > > >Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 3:56 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: Build it yourself Car Trailer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have this on my list of future projects so I'd really appreciate
> > > > > this conversation to remain on the list if possible.  I bought one
> > > > > of the books on trailer design from Northern Tool which appears to
> > > > > cover the basics so it would be very valuable to me to watch the
> > > > > process from the comfort of my keyboard.
> > > > >
> > > > > My practical side says a trailer should be made of steel, but I'd
> > > > > love to see one made of aluminum.
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve Shipley
> > > > > Seattle, WA
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard Boyce wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have not built any from any of"Buy the plans for 29.95"
>sources
> >but
> > > >I
> > > >have
> > > > > > built quite a few trailers. tandem axle car haulers, specific
>race
> >car
> > > > > > trailers, utility trailers etc. etc. etc. Your most major
>expense
> >will
> > > >be
> > > > > > the axles, springs, hubs, bearings and assorted hardware. If you
> >would
> > > >like
> > > > > > to contact me off list I would be glad to help you design one
>that
> > > >will
> > > >fit
> > > > > > your needs or answer any of your questions. No charge of course.
> >The
> > > >same
> > > > > > offer goes out to any one else that may be interested.
> > > > > > rboyce90@hotmail.com  Trailers are a very good welding project
>for
> >the
> > > >home
> > > > > > craftsman.BTW I have been fabricating and welding for over 30
> >yrs-glad
> > > >to
> > > > > > answer anyones questions
> > > > > >                    Richard
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: "Kendall F Jones" <mrjones2@ix.netcom.com>
> > > > > > >Reply-To: "Kendall F Jones" <mrjones2@ix.netcom.com>
> > > > > > >To: <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
> > > > > > >Subject: Build it yourself Car Trailer
> > > > > > >Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 17:20:17 -0500
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Has anyone put together one of those "Buy the plans for $29.95"
> >Car
> > > > > > >trailers?  I've been looking to get a double axle trailer,
> >thinking I
> > > >could
> > > > > > >make one cheaper than a used one (I'm cheap)...  Got the space,
> >got
> > > >the
> > > > > > >tools....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Any comments on actual costs, preferred dealers (for trailer
> > > >hardware)
> > > > > > >would
> > > > > > >be appreciated.  I've looked on the internet (briefly) and
>found
> >half
> > > >a
> > > > > > >dozen plan vendors (but no free plans!, harumph)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >thanks
> > > > > > >Kendall
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > >
>_________________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > >
> >_________________________________________________________________________
>
>_________________________________________________________________________

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