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Re: The Devil Made Me Do It (TC)

To: ddahlgren@snet.net
Subject: Re: The Devil Made Me Do It (TC)
From: Bryan Savage <basavage@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 11:03:28 -0800
Good points Dave. How would you word it?

Bryan





Dave Dahlgren wrote:

>Then all those things short of ballast are illegal.. 
>Rev limiter measures rpm
>Boost limiter measures manifold pressure
>Driver measures slip and adjusts clutch
>Wing diffuser and spoiler all work by air speed
>Ignition advance uses rpm at least..
>Throttle ..driver
>Gearshift auto trans measures both rpm and throttle position.. 
>
>so far have not used a computer and these are all traction control........
>
>
>Problem is it is not written down as every car would be illegal under the
>current definition.. So you can not go by your intent at all. it is all subject
>to inspector determination of something not written down clearly.. It is a very
>sad note when yo can not use the technology that is available in normal
>passenger cars to make a race car go faster.. It is anti innovation and anti 
>hot
>rodding.. It is museum racing.. all the cars are vintage like it or not.. All I
>want to know is who are these low buck little gus everyone talks about.. Most 
>of
>this stuff is useless until you have enough power to spin the tires in the 
>first
>place in high gear. when you have that much power the whole concept of low buck
>is long gone.
>
>Dave
>
>
>Bryan Savage wrote:
>  
>
>>Based on what I think the intent is, I would define illegal traction
>>control as;
>>controlling the amount of power applied to the track, in real time, by
>>making any change
>>based on real time measurement of any vehicle performance factor.
>>
>>Am I close?
>>
>>Bryan
>>
>>Dave Dahlgren wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>I think you have to define what it is TC and how it is different than a lot 
>of
>>>other engine controls..
>>>
>>>Is a rev limiter traction control or do I not worry about an over rev
>>>Is a boost limiter traction control or do I just overboost the engine
>>>Is a clutch traction control do I have to pop it or can I ride it
>>>Is ballast traction control...
>>>Is a wing traction control
>>>Is a spoiler traction control
>>>Is a diffuser traction control
>>>Are brakes traction control
>>>Is the ignition advance traction control
>>>Is the throttle traction control
>>>Is the gearshift traction control
>>>
>>>These and more are all used for traction control we just call them that all 
>the
>>>time..
>>>There in no car I am aware of that does not have many of these.
>>>Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>Glen Barrett wrote:

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