I've sort of been following this thread with some interest and ,while not
"tired"of it,have lost the big picture somewhere along the way.My point is, who
would benefit and in what way if this dream were reality today?The flip side
is,who would (if anyone) be negatively impacted?Seems there are individuals as
well as organizations that have somethig to gain or loose.Would organizations
like SCTA,USFRA,ECTA,etc. be willing to give up some independence to achieve a
common standard?Do individual racers feel the need for a "world record"
standard,particularly if it might mean more rules or higher costs?I don't have a
paticular point of view either way,but to stay interested I believe folks need
to
see some strong benefits and few if any negatives.Just what I think.
Tim Schoeny
\"LandSpeed\" Louise Ann Noeth wrote:
> If anyone got their feeling hurt, my apologies, but it was never the
> intention to cast aspersions, merely engage in a healthy debate, which
> has been a rather gingerly, satisfying one to date.
>
> However, for the second time on this list we have enjoyed a lively,
> multi-viewed international exchange of views, only to have the whole
> thing screech to a halt because some folks are "tired" or some other
> silliness.
>
> I would be delighted to continue this subject with those care to forge
> a workable, modern-day approach to world record-setting. Please
> contact me privately.
>
> In closing, I would like to point out that if some of you are weary of
> this subject after only a few days, imagine the level of commitment
> required to run the SCTA, or the FIA, AMA, who have been battling the
> politics for more years than ALL of us have been alive. You could call
> it intestinal fortitude, but that's just a fancy name for guts and
> grunt.
>
> Speedy Regards,
>
> "LandSpeed" Louise Ann Noeth
>
> LandSpeed Productions
> Telling stories with words and pictures
> ------------------------o0o--------------------------
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
> To: "Joe Amo" <jkamo@rapidnet.com>; ""\"LandSpeed\" Louise Ann Noeth""
> <lanspeed@west.net>
> Cc: "Jonathan Amo" <webmaster@landracing.com>; "Landspeed"
> <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 3:27 PM
> Subject: International/attitudes
>
> >
> > Very well said Joe.... and your comment really is correct... I know
> the
> > amount of respect we have for each other is Huge.... and to allow an
> E-mail
> > make you mad is silly.... but it's honestly Very Real.... Sometimes
> we
> > forget that there are faces behind each of these names... and that
> they too
> > have feelings that can and Do get hurt....
> >
> > I have the utmost respect for racers in general at every level...
> and if we
> > were talking in Person.... I could see how a comment effected
> them.... but
> > with this medium we have to THINK before we speak... so as not to
> offend...
> > it's one of the things that is so great about this list.... we
> really do
> > have the ability to disagree on an issue that some of us find
> important and
> > some of us don't... we can all air our feelings and attitude without
> > offending so long as we understand there are REAL people sitting
> there
> > reading it....
> >
> > Good for you Joe.... I enjoyed reading your Mail.... Keith
> > ----------
> > > From: Joe Amo <jkamo@rapidnet.com>
> > > To: "\"LandSpeed\" Louise Ann Noeth" <lanspeed@west.net>
> > > Cc: Jonathan Amo <webmaster@landracing.com>; Landspeed
> > <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > Subject: Re: International Records
> > > Date: Friday, February 02, 2001 4:27 PM
> > >
> > > Louise, others. Whew, I think I am like Howard N. in becoming
> full of
> > > the rhetoric. I think it was better, when I left my trap shut and
> just
> > > showed up to try and go fast, among the people I enjoy the most.
> > > As lately this dialogue has resulted in emails of heat some on
> list some
> > > off,
> > > from folks that I admire too much too risk alienation.
> > >
> > > There are many differences of opinion regarding many principles.
> > >
> > > Maybe if the FIA knew about and was invited to the cookout
> > > "at the bend in the road", things could be different,
> Landracing.com
> > > will look into it.
> > >
> > > Joe (FIA is good, UPS is good, my wife is good, cleansing breaths
> are
> > > good...) Amo
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > \"LandSpeed\" Louise Ann Noeth wrote:
> > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > The FIA is the oldest and most respected sanctioning body, since
> the
> > > > turn of century. Just because some people don't like them,
> doesn't
> > > > diminish their very influential role in lsr history -- which
> predates
> > > > even SCTA by a couple of decades. Although this in an amateur
> sport,
> > > > when you seek world recognition, there are layers of management
> and
> > > > authority to sort thorough and that takes money to run and
> maintain.
> > > >
> > > > I appreciate anyone who runs at speeds that exceed current
> records,
> > > > but a time slip does not a record make -- the independent
> > > > certification process is the only way to say for sure that a
> record
> > > > has been set, anything less is just talk. Two very important
> points, I
> > > > am sure you agree, are the clock certification and the engine
> > > > inspection after the runs.
> > > >
> > > > Having been involved with motorsports up to my eyeballs for 30
> > > > (yikes!) years, I have seen plenty of "records" evaporate when
> the
> > > > certification process was invoked. And yes, some don't give a
> fig
> > > > about the certification process, like Hal Needham and that
> "one-way"
> > > > rocket claim. If we sympathize with your logic, then we have
> embrace
> > > > Needham as well.
> > > >
> > > > BTW, the "any record" phrase was a future tense comment, not
> directed
> > > > to you in anyway, the postulation is generic unless specifically
> > > > noted.
> > > >
> > > > You lost me with the comment about your spouse . . .
> > > >
> > > > I have only 4 of those motorcycle books left. You may buy them
> from me
> > > > if you like, they are $20. each, plus shipping (approx. $3.50)
> > > >
> > > > Speedy Regards,
> > > >
> > > > "LandSpeed" Louise Ann Noeth
> > > >
> > > > LandSpeed Productions
> > > > Telling stories with words and pictures
> > > > ------------------------o0o--------------------------
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