Setting a record has always been defined as performing against a standard.
The recognized standard in land speed racing has always been a two way
average across the same relative piece of real estate. You cannot claim any
record with a one way pass. Tail wind, down hill, etc. Why do we always want
to make it easier to set records? My records were set when you had to make a
qualifying run over the record and then the two way pass in opposite
directions to get the record. I was not happy when they took the qualifying
pass out of the equation and I think all the recent records that have been
set with two passes in the same direction should have an asterisk beside
them identifying that fact.
I will accept the fact that I am old fashioned and that they name streets
after me. They are called "one Way"
I have even been called opinionated but what do those people know?
Howard
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
To: "Jonathan Amo" <webmaster@landracing.com>
Cc: "Joe Amo" <jkamo@rapidnet.com>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: International Records
> Okay Jon.... Relax and think a bit here.... don't jump to the same
> conclusions I jumped to.... I agreed with you up front.... but then Logic
> Prevailed... or at least that is my opinion... and YES I ASSUME lot's of
> things....
>
> Here is the Truth as I know it with my car and ONLY my car... I run 15-18%
> faster at Bonneville then I do at Maxton. That gives a guy running
> Bonneville a 15% minimum advantage over me at Maxton.... Now if you do the
> same thing for Cars at El Mirage then I think you can come to the same
> conclusion that these Venues are not as Fast as Bonneville.... Let enough
of
> us go to Lake Gairdner and I think your going to find there is a Big
> advantage to running there with a 5 mile course at Virtual Sea level....
>
> So what if you have to do it twice.... you have 5 times the room and less
> traction at a Higher Altitude and it's Proven to be a Faster course then
all
> the others so far.... ( if the salt continues to improve it will be even
> better still )
>
> My Point is if someone beats the Bonneville record somewhere else in a
Legal
> class car..... that person should hold the International record for that
> class.... It's not going to change the Bonneville record.... only the
Level
> one has to go to at Bonneville to set the INTERNATIONAL record for that
type
> of car.... Otherwise he would be setting a National record at
Bonneville....
> ( it would still qualify as a 2 club record as you set a record at
> Bonneville over Two Bills in my case ...( BIG HOPE HERE))
>
> That is the logic that I came down to.... Problem with making them
> consecutive is Time limitations for El Mirage and Muroc... they don't have
> adequate track surface and area to do back to back record runs....
>
> Keith
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jonathan Amo" <webmaster@landracing.com>
> To: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
> Cc: "Joe Amo" <jkamo@rapidnet.com>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 7:31 PM
> Subject: Re: International Records
>
>
> > Keith List,
> >
> > But the one thing all records at Bonneville and FIA records have that
make
> them
> > more valuable and recognizable is the average of two speeds over the
same
> real
> > estate. Not just one run with a trap speeds. That has always been the
> glory of
> > land speed racing, that not only did you only do it once, but twice,
over
> the
> > same real estate but that also shows durability with a motor thats an
> important
> > factor, some can say they once did it, but bonneville records and FIA
> records
> > show they did it twice within an allotted time period.
> >
> > Jonathan Amo
> > www.landracing.com
> >
> > Jonathan Amo
> > www.landracing.com
> >
> > Keith Turk wrote:
> >
> > > Okay Joe.... lets take that as an example then.... You say there is a
> > > difference between say... Maxton and Bonneville.... and I happen to
> > > agree.... at Bonneville you have 4 miles to get up to speed.... where
is
> the
> > > challange compared to ONE mile and a 132' trap.... or at El Mirage on
> Dirt
> > > at 1.3 miles? or Muroc on Talcum Powder at 1.5 miles and a One way
> average
> > > as the record.... Personally I think the short courses are severaly
> > > disadvantaged over the Long Course at Bville.... shoot even the Short
> course
> > > is better.....
> > >
> > > Why not?
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