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Re: New Category

To: Dan Warner <dwarner@electrorent.com>
Subject: Re: New Category
From: dahlgren <dahlgren@uconect.net>
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 09:09:43 -0400
If this makes any sense at all and maybe it does i would think that cars
that came stock with EFI and all the related controls ought to be able
to run them.. With the apparent great love of retro tech would it be
more sensible to either make the year break earlier or to allow whatever
technology that was stock on the car to reamin although not necessarily
the stock part. lets not get into NHRA type stuff where you can only run
a certain carb and by the same token if you can run any carb can't you
run any kind of EFI.. I would not want to have a 1980 factory hot rod
and then have to strip all the standard fuel and ignition stuff out to
race it nor would i want to have to police whether it is stock or not...
.maybe 1969 or so is a better choice of years in the first place.
Typically this is before electronics were common in the first place.
  along these lines where does my AMC Pacer fit?? I have the one with
the optional Willys twin turbo F-head engine and two carter YF carbs?? I
am running the standard save-a-spares all the way around to help with
the gearing...can i remove the 8-track and cup holders to save weight
although for such a long race the music would be nice to have too and
you can get pretty thirsty at times too so a tough trade off..
Dahlgren
Dan Warner wrote:
> 
> Here it is!
> 
> Included in this email is the proposal for the new CATEGORY which will break
> the current Modified Category classes by year. This proposal will create a
> new category between the existing Vintage and Modified Categories. The body
> year break will be 1949 to 1981 inclusive.
> 
> Note that the engine breaks are restrictive as the new category will deal
> with AMERICAN coupe and sedan bodies only. There will be no Competition
> Coupe classes. The reasoning is that competition coupe rules are very
> liberal and the choice of body is a personal issue. All other rules in the
> category will be the same as the current Modified category as far as aero,
> engine swaps, transmission, etc.
> 
> You have the opportunity to cast a vote as to the degree of mechanical
> sophistication in this new category. The name of the category is not yet
> decided. You also have the chance to name this category through a contest
> administered by Jon Amo on his web site www.landracing.com.
> When choosing your name for the category please be aware that our class
> naming convention is laborious at best. An example would be: XXO/BACFAlt (AC
> = American Classic). Lets not make the class name longer than the vehicle.
> 
> Please distribute the proposal to your buddies who may not be internet
> savvy. This is an unprecedented opportunity to take part in the process.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Dan Warner
> 
> Southern California Timing Association 2001 Rule Book Proposal
> 
> The following sections are recommended rules changes to add the "Nostalgia
> Category" into the new 2001Rule Book.
> 
> Purpose:
> To split the Coupe/Sedan car classes using newer aerodynamic cars (1982 to
> present) from the older less aerodynamic cars (1949 through 1981). This
> change
> will make the older cars more competitive and still allow the newer cars to
> compete amongst themselves.  All old records will be re-established and
> those records set by newer cars will stay with them in the current Modified
> Category classes. Here is an example; John Rain's car (1989 Indy 500
> Pontiac) record of 274.5 MPH for D/PS will stay with him in the current
> Production Category class, but in the newly established Nostalgia Category,
> Ron Hall's car (1963 Avanti) old record of 195.6 MPH will be re-entered into
> the record book for D/NPS class. This way no one looses a record and the old
> records are reinstated. Carefully read the two options in the Nostalgia
> Category and vote your
> opinion on the spaces provided.  The two options are; Option 1A or 1B on one
> subject and Option 2A or 2B on the other subject, you must vote for one of
> the two choices for each option.  Also, vote for or against the proposal of
> adding the new Nostalgia Category to the 2001 Rule Book.
> The goal is to have every race car owner in the Coupe or Sedan class vote on
> these changes. The race car owners voting can be those who race at
> Bonneville, the Dry Lakes, Maxon or all venues. Each race car owner
> will have one vote on the outcome of this consideration of rule changes.
> Its important that all owners vote and mail their results to Bob Sykes Jr.
> by no later than November 1, 2000.  At that cutoff date, the ballots will be
> tallied and the  results will impact on what changes go into the Southern
> California Timing Associatation Rule Book for the year 2001. So please
> don't sit on this, study the changes then vote and mail your results ASAP!!
> 
> NOSTALGIA CATEGORY
> The Nostalgia Car category will consists of  American coupe or sedan cars
> from 1949 through and including 1981.
> Note:  the "N" has been added to the following categories to indicate the
> Nostalgia Car Class.
> .
> 
> NOSTALGIA FUEL ALTERED COUPE - /NBFALT, /NFALT
> NOSTALGIA GAS ALTERED COUPE - /NBGALT, /NGALT
> 
> Engine classes allowed are:
> AA, A, B, C, D, E, F, XF, XO, XXF, XXO,  and V4.
> 
> NOSTALGIA GAS COUPE and SEDAN - /NBGC, /NGC
> 
> Engine classes allowed are:
> AA, A, B, C, D, E, F, XF, XO, XXF, XXO, and V4
> 
> NOSTALGIA PRODUCTION COUPE and SEDAN - /NPRO
> 
> Engine classes allowed are:
> AA, A, B, C, D, E, F, XF, XO, and V4.
> 
> .
> NOSTALGIA SUPERCHARGED PRODUCTION COUPE and SEDAN - /NPS
> 
> Engine classes allowed are:
> AA, A, B, C, D, E, F, XF, XO.
> 
> NOSTALGIA CATEGORY
> 
> (Option #1A, EFI is allowed)
> (Option #1B, EFI is not allowed)
> 
> (Option #2A, computer controlled ignition timing is allowed)
> (Option #2B, computer controlled ignition timing is not allowed).
> 
> VOTING FORM FOR COUPE/SEDAN CAR OWNERS
> 
> OWNER'S NAME:    print name ___________________________________
> 
> OWNER'S SIGNATURE:   ___________________________________
> 
> DATE VOTED:    ___________________________________
> 
> HOME ADDRESS:    ___________________________________
> 
>                                    ___________________________________
> 
> PHONE NUMBER    ___________________________________
> 
> CAR'S CLASS & ENTRY #:  ___________________________________
> 
> LAST RACE ENTERED:   ___________________________________
> 
> ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF THE NOSTALGIA CATEGORY?
> 
> YES   _____
> 
> NO     _____
> 
> VOTE FOR ONE ON OPTION #1
>                                                             OPTION 1A   ____
> (YES, EFI)
>                                                             (Electronic Fuel
> Injection)              or
>                                                             OPTION 1B   ____
> (NO, EFI)
> 
>  VOTE FOR ONE ON OPTION #2
>                                                             OPTION 2A  ____
> (YES,CMPTR )
>                                                             (Computer
> ignition timing)                  or
>                                                             OPTION 2B   ____
> (NO, CMPTR)
> 
> "AFTER YOU'VE VOTED SEND THIS LAST PAGE TO:"
> Bob Sykes Jr. (Coupes & Sedan Committee Chairman)
> 6815 Scott Circle,
> Cypress, California 90630    Any questions, call Bob at home (714) 527-6907
> 
> email: Dan Warner - dwarner@electrorent.com  Bobby Sykes Jr.
> drylakes207@yahoo.com
> 
> Please vote by November 1,  2000 so  the Southern California Timing
> Association can make a count of the votes.

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