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Give me a break "Austin-Healey" must be a concours judge. The problem with=
the Texas cooler is it flexes towards the radiator unlike other fans that =
were developed specifically for "Austin-Healey's". With age they flex more=
. They have taken out several radiators over the years. I have no problem=
with a noisier fan designed to keep the heat down than use that cheap plas=
tic fan. Like I said to each his own.
Don
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2025 8:50 AM
To: Don Anglesey <healey100s@live.com>; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery
The noise was excessive in my Austin-Healey (can't speak to Austin-Healys).=
The fan all but drowned-out the engine at idle and I didn't like sitting i=
n a cloud of dust (but it was the most-effective temp-lowering mod I've tri=
ed). Note the fan BCS originally sold was different than what I think they=
sell now; it had massively curved, rectangular blades--seven of them--that=
went from a couple inches of pitch to near-flat as speed increased.
I only replace cores once (except when a water pump shaft broke and sent a =
fan into the radiator).
Bob
On 10/5/2025 7:36 AM, Don Anglesey wrote:
Your worried about a little noise in an Austin Healy? Keep the cooler and =
continue to replace radiator cores. There are several better options. To =
each his own.
Don
Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
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.team.net> on behalf of Bob Spidell via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net><ma=
ilto:healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2025 11:07:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery
Except flex fans are extremely noisy. I got a 7-blade SS Hayden flex fan an=
d BCS's own home-rolled shroud from them decades ago, and it was good for a=
5-10deg reduction at idle but, damn was it loud (and it would blow clouds =
of dust out from under the car when stationary). Ditched it for a TC (but k=
ept the shroud). Some SS flex fans are known for throwing a blade.
bs
On 10/4/2025 9:15 PM, Don Anglesey wrote:
Ditch the Texas cooler, British car specialists sell a nice stainless-steel=
fan that doesn't flex into your radiator.
Don
Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
________________________________
.team.net> on behalf of Richard Antal via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net><=
mailto:healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, October 3, 2025 6:04:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery
I inadvertently omitted an important detail: with the advent of cool weathe=
r in NH, rather than change the thermostat to 180 from 160, I slipped a pie=
ce of cardboard in front of the radiator. I had driven 200 miles in back ro=
ads with the cardboard in place and the temp gauge never got above 170, and=
so I didn't watch the temp gauge while dashing down the interstate at 80 m=
ph. I was unaware of any problem until arriving home, I could smell radiato=
r fluid. When I popped the hood all was wet, hot, and steaming. Perhaps at =
speeds 60mph and below the fan blades didn't flex enough but at 80 mph, the=
y did and thus I inadvertently caused the damage to the radiator. I doesn't=
leak. Today, having removed the suspect cardboard, I'll venture forth and =
watch the temp gauge keenly.......rich
On Thursday, October 2, 2025 at 09:38:55 PM EDT, Michael Salter <michael.sa=
I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that are, =
or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator to the grill=
e. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air from the backside of th=
e radiator will swirl around to the front and pass through the radiator aga=
in and thus seriously deminish its cooling ability.
M
________________________________
d@telus.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery
Rich,
Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "extra series of coolin=
g tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away from the side that push=
es air, in other words towards the radiator. The extra cooling tubes may ha=
ve reduced the clearance between the radiator and the fan. There isn't much=
clearance to begin with. The combination of the two may have been enough f=
or the fan to hit the radiator.
The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan has =
little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature was very hig=
h and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should keep up. Wha=
t was the water temperature gauge saying?
Harold
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Give me a break =
220;Austin-Healey” must be a concours judge. The problem with t=
he Texas cooler is it flexes towards the radiator unlike other fans that we=
re developed specifically for “Austin-Healey’s”. Wi=
th
age they flex more. They have taken out several radiators over the y=
ears. I have no problem with a noisier fan designed to keep the heat =
down than use that cheap plastic fan. Like I said to each his own.<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Don<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></=
span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"=
;Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Bob Spidell <bspidell@comca=
st.net>
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 5, 2025 8:50 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Don Anglesey <healey100s@live.com>; healeys@autox.team.net=
<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">The noise was excessi=
ve in my Austin-Healey (can't speak to Austin-Healys). The fan all but drow=
ned-out the engine at idle and I didn't like sitting in a cloud of dust (bu=
t it was the most-effective temp-lowering
mod I've tried). Note the fan BCS originally sold was different than=
what I think they sell now; it had massively curved, rectangular blades--s=
even of them--that went from a couple inches of pitch to near-flat as speed=
increased. <br>
<br>
I only replace cores once (except when a water pump shaft broke and sent a =
fan into the radiator).<br>
<br>
Bob <br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 10/5/2025 7:36 AM, Don Anglesey wrote:<o:p></o:p>=
</p>
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<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Your worried about a little noise in an Austin Healy=
? Keep the cooler and continue to replace radiator cores. There=
are several better options. To each his own.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Don<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"=
;Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-=
size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> Healey=
s
<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";><healeys-bounces@autox=
.team.net></a> on behalf of Bob Spidell via Healeys
<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";><healeys@autox.team.net></a=
><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 4, 2025 11:07:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net=
</a> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>
<healeys@autox.team.net></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Except flex fans are =
extremely noisy. I got a 7-blade SS Hayden flex fan and BCS's own home-roll=
ed shroud from them decades ago, and it was good for a 5-10deg reduction at=
idle but, damn was it loud (and it
would blow clouds of dust out from under the car when stationary). Ditched=
it for a TC (but kept the shroud). Some SS flex fans are known for throwin=
g a blade. <br>
<br>
bs<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 10/4/2025 9:15 PM, Don Anglesey wrote:<o:p></o:p>=
</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ditch the Texas cooler, British car specialists sell=
a nice stainless-steel fan that doesn't flex into your radiator. <o:p=
></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"=
;Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-=
size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> Healey=
s
<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";><healeys-bounces@autox=
.team.net></a> on behalf of Richard Antal via Healeys
<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";><healeys@autox.team.net></a=
><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 3, 2025 6:04:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Harold Manifold <a href=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net";><manifo=
ld@telus.net></a>; Michael Salter
<a href=3D"mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com";><michael.salter@gmail.com>=
;</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Healeys <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";><healeys@au=
tox.team.net></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"He=
lvetica",sans-serif">I inadvertently omitted an important detail: with=
the advent of cool weather in NH, rather than change the thermostat to 180=
from 160, I slipped a piece of cardboard in front
of the radiator. I had driven 200 miles in back roads with the cardboard i=
n place and the temp gauge never got above 170, and so I didn't watch the t=
emp gauge while dashing down the interstate at 80 mph. I was unaware of any=
problem until arriving home, I
could smell radiator fluid. When I popped the hood all was wet, hot, and s=
teaming. Perhaps at speeds 60mph and below the fan blades didn't flex enoug=
h but at 80 mph, they did and thus I inadvertently caused the damage to the=
radiator. I doesn't leak. Today,
having removed the suspect cardboard, I'll venture forth and watch the tem=
p gauge keenly.......rich<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"He=
lvetica",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
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lvetica",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"He=
lvetica",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"He=
lvetica",sans-serif">On Thursday, October 2, 2025 at 09:38:55 PM EDT, =
Michael Salter
<a href=3D"mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com";><michael.salter@gmail.com>=
;</a> wrote: <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
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lvetica",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"He=
lvetica",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I would also suggest that you take a careful look at=
the baffles that are, or should be, installed forward from the sides of th=
e radiator to the grille. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air =
from the backside of the radiator
will swirl around to the front and pass through the radiator again and thu=
s seriously deminish its cooling ability.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">M<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"=
;Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-=
size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> Healey=
s
<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";><healeys-bounces@autox=
.team.net></a> on behalf of Harold Manifold
<a href=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net";><manifold@telus.net></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Richard Antal <a href=3D"mailto:rantal243@yahoo.com";><rantal2=
43@yahoo.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Healeys <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";><healeys@au=
tox.team.net></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery</span><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"He=
lvetica",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"He=
lvetica",sans-serif">Rich,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"He=
lvetica",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"He=
lvetica",sans-serif">Your comments "high speed. run of twenty mil=
es" and "extra series of cooling tubes" may offer some clues=
. Fan blades flex away from the side that pushes air, in other words
towards the radiator. The extra cooling tubes may have reduced the cl=
earance between the radiator and the fan. There isn't much clearance to beg=
in with. The combination of the two may have been enough for the fan to hit=
the radiator.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"He=
lvetica",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"He=
lvetica",sans-serif">The other issue is what caused the overheating. A=
t high speeds the fan has little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambien=
t temperature was very high and you were going
up a steep hill the colling system should keep up. What was the water temp=
erature gauge saying?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"He=
lvetica",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"He=
lvetica",sans-serif">Harold<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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