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Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery

To: Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net>, Michael Salter <michael.salter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery
From: Richard Antal via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2025 12:04:28 +0000 (UTC)
Cc: Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
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 I inadvertently omitted an important detail: with the advent of cool weath=
er in NH, rather than change the thermostat to 180 from 160, I slipped a pi=
ece of cardboard in front of the radiator. I had driven 200 miles in back r=
oads with the cardboard in place and the temp gauge never got above 170, an=
d so I didn't watch the temp gauge while dashing down the interstate at 80 =
mph. I was unaware of any problem until arriving home, I could smell radiat=
or fluid. When I popped the hood all was wet, hot, and steaming. Perhaps at=
 speeds 60mph and below the fan blades didn't flex enough but at 80 mph, th=
ey did and thus I inadvertently caused the damage to the radiator. I doesn'=
t leak. Today, having removed the suspect cardboard, I'll venture forth and=
 watch the temp gauge keenly.......rich






    On Thursday, October 2, 2025 at 09:38:55 PM EDT, Michael Salter <michae=
l.salter@gmail.com> wrote: =20
=20
 I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that are,=
 or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator to the gril=
le. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air from the backside of t=
he radiator will swirl around to the front and pass through the radiator ag=
ain and thus seriously deminish its cooling ability.
M

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Harold Manifold=
 <manifold@telus.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM
To: Richard Antal <rantal243@yahoo.com>
Cc: Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery=C2=A0Rich,
Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "extra series of coolin=
g tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away from the side that push=
es air, in other words towards=C2=A0the radiator. The extra cooling tubes m=
ay have reduced the clearance between the radiator and the fan. There isn't=
 much clearance to begin with. The combination of the two may have been eno=
ugh for the fan to hit the radiator.
The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan has =
little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature=C2=A0was ver=
y high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should keep up=
. What was the water temperature gauge saying?
Harold


On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 1:39=E2=80=AFPM Richard Antal via Healeys <healeys@a=
utox.team.net> wrote:

Listers,=C2=A0 =C2=A0 My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A couple of=
 weeks ago I noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at various spe=
eds. It vanished two days later.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Yesterday a high speed. run o=
f twenty miles produce an overheating radiator with fluid spewing from the =
overflow tube. To my horror, I saw that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had =
for at least 25 years had confronted the engine side of the radiator leavin=
g a distinct circular impression and abrasion to the tip of one of the fan =
blades. That radiator was rebuilt two years ago with an extra series of coo=
ling tubes and had given no problems for at least 5000 miles. I assumed the=
 harness which prevents the engine from sliding forward was faulty. Inspect=
ion of the underside did not support that conclusion--it looked fine to me:=
 all bushings and nuts were in place. I ran the engine after filling the ra=
diator and saw no evidence of recurrence of the fan nudging the radiator. I=
'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your thoughts......Rich Antal_____=
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I inadvertently omitted an i=
mportant detail: with the advent of cool weather in NH, rather than change =
the thermostat to 180 from 160, I slipped a piece of cardboard in front of =
the radiator. I had driven 200 miles in back roads with the cardboard in pl=
ace and the temp gauge never got above 170, and so I didn't watch the temp =
gauge while dashing down the interstate at 80 mph. I was unaware of any pro=
blem until arriving home, I could smell radiator fluid. When I popped the h=
ood all was wet, hot, and steaming. Perhaps at speeds 60mph and below the f=
an blades didn't flex enough but at 80 mph, they did and thus I inadvertent=
ly caused the damage to the radiator. I doesn't leak. Today, having removed=
 the suspect cardboard, I'll venture forth and watch the temp gauge keenly.=
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                    On Thursday, October 2, 2025 at 09:38:55 PM EDT, Michae=
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I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that are, =
or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator to the grill=
e. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air from the backside of th=
e radiator will swirl around to
 the front and pass through the radiator again and thus seriously deminish =
its cooling ability.</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Rich,
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<div>Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "extra series of c=
ooling tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away from the side that=
 pushes air, in other words towards&nbsp;the radiator. The extra cooling tu=
bes may have reduced the clearance between
 the radiator and the fan. There isn't much clearance to begin with. The co=
mbination of the two may have been enough for the fan to hit the radiator.<=
/div>
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<div>The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan=
 has little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature&nbsp;wa=
s very high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should ke=
ep up. What was the water temperature
 gauge saying?</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Listers,</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A =
couple of weeks ago I noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at va=
rious speeds. It vanished two days later.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; Yesterday a high speed. run of twenty miles =
produce an overheating radiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. =
To my horror, I saw that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had for at least 25=
 years had confronted the engine side of the
 radiator leaving a distinct circular impression and abrasion to the tip of=
 one of the fan blades. That radiator was rebuilt two years ago with an ext=
ra series of cooling tubes and had given no problems for at least 5000 mile=
s. I assumed the harness which prevents
 the engine from sliding forward was faulty. Inspection of the underside di=
d not support that conclusion--it looked fine to me: all bushings and nuts =
were in place. I ran the engine after filling the radiator and saw no evide=
nce of recurrence of the fan nudging
 the radiator. I'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your thoughts.....=
.</div>
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