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Re: [Healeys] Healey gear reduction starter

To: Richard Mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey gear reduction starter
From: Jonathan Einhorn <einhornlawoffice@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2025 13:45:53 -0400
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Richard: I=E2=80=99ll have to send you some photos of the MG rack in the ra=
cecar.
It=E2=80=99s got a u joint too. I avoid bumps on the track!!
Jon

Jonathan J. Einhorn, Esq.
Attorney & Counselor at Law
129 Whitney Avenue
New Haven, CT. 06510
tel: 203-777-3777
einhornlawoffice@gmail.com
fax: 203-782-1721
cell: 203-623-7373


On Mon, Jun 9, 2025 at 12:56=E2=80=AFPM Richard Mayor <boyracer466@gmail.co=
m> wrote:

> Yes, just bolt in an MGB rack and pinion. Anywhere will do. No need to
> worry about that thing called "bump steer".  Oh, and that rack will have =
to
> go in the space where the radiator is currently located.  No worries. Jus=
t
> have a custom radiator built that will fit in the new forward - angled
> space - that needs to go forward of the MG rack.  But first, fab up those
> braces that must be welded to the chassis legs to support that new custom
> radiator.  Last but not least. Reconfigure those steering arms for the ne=
w
> steering geometry to eliminate bump steer.  Oh wait, Then there are the
> universal joints and double D steering shaft and that upper part of
> the column that needs to be cut, modified, supported, braced and massaged
> to locate the stock steering wheel.
>
> Here's a photo of my work in progress for mounting an MGB rack.  It has
> taken me many, many, hours so far.   But your experience could differ.
>
> On Sat, Jun 7, 2025 at 2:44=E2=80=AFPM Jonathan Einhorn <
> einhornlawoffice@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Or just replace it with a rack and pinion steering column from an MG
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> Jonathan J. Einhorn, Esq.
>> Attorney & Counselor at Law
>> 129 Whitney Avenue
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/129+Whitney+Avenue+New+Haven,+CT.+06=
510?entry=3Dgmail&source=3Dg>
>> New Haven, CT. 06510
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/129+Whitney+Avenue+New+Haven,+CT.+06=
510?entry=3Dgmail&source=3Dg>
>> tel: 203-777-3777
>> einhornlawoffice@gmail.com
>> fax: 203-782-1721
>> cell: 203-623-7373
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 7, 2025 at 4:22=E2=80=AFPM Robert Markovich via Healeys <
>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> AH Spares and I believe Denis Welch offer an upgraded box that is
>>> promised to be nearly as precise as rack and pinion, with a choice of
>>> ratios. Also available is a jointed =E2=80=9Csafety shaft=E2=80=9D whic=
h seems nice
>>> provided the horn still works from the steering wheel center (a toggle
>>> switch a la Sprite on the dash would have to do for the turn signals wi=
th a
>>> jointed shaft).
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
>>> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661=
>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, June 7, 2025, 2:31 PM, Bob Spidell via Healeys <
>>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> re: "... the Healey steering box is more closely related to a gravel
>>> truck than a sports car"
>>>
>>> Yep; it's 'worm-and-peg,' not even high-tech recirculating ball. Rebuil=
d
>>> is doable by a decent shadetree mechanic; hard part is getting the whol=
e
>>> shaft in and out--a little easier on the 4-cyls--and rocker shaft bush =
has
>>> to be correctly installed and reamed.
>>>
>>> bs
>>>
>>> On 6/7/2025 8:13 AM, Harold Manifold wrote:
>>>
>>> Dave,
>>>
>>> Not sure where you are located but if you can find a shop that repairs
>>> highway truck steering boxes they can repair/rebuild the Healey steerin=
g
>>> box. It won't come as a surprise to many of us but the Healey steering =
box
>>> is more closely related to a gravel truck than a sports car.
>>>
>>> Harold
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 5:28=E2=80=AFPM Richard Kahn via Healeys <
>>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I got mine from British Car Specialist. I don=E2=80=99t remember the pr=
ice. I
>>> like it. But I got the original rebuilt for a few bucks. Now it sits on=
 a
>>> shelf awaiting the reduction one to fail. The wiring was a little trick=
y
>>> but with the help of a friend it is perfect.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Jun 6, 2025, at 4:31=E2=80=AFPM, David Masucci via Healeys <
>>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > =EF=BB=BFHi Listers,
>>> >
>>> > The other day I was looking into the modern gear reduction starter fo=
r
>>> the Healey. On the Moss website the total included $319.89 for the star=
ter,
>>> $24.99 for shipping, and $20.00 for tax. The moss total to my door $364=
.98.
>>> >
>>> > I happen to take a look on Amazon for something relating to the
>>> Healey, and lo and behold, there was the same starter (same image even)=
.
>>> The starter was listed at $241.06, free shipping, and $15.07 for tax. T=
he
>>> Amazon total to my door $256.16.
>>> >
>>> > Your call, but if you=E2=80=99re looking for one of these for your bi=
g Healey,
>>> that=E2=80=99s a savings of $108.85.
>>> >
>>> > Just an FYI.
>>> >
>>> > BTW, I was looking to see if I could get a better price for a rebuilt
>>> steering box. No luck on that one.
>>> >
>>> > Dave
>>> >
>>> > 64 BJ8
>>> >
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<div dir=3D"auto">Richard: I=E2=80=99ll have to send you some photos of the=
 MG rack in the racecar. It=E2=80=99s got a u joint too. I avoid bumps on t=
he track!!</div><div dir=3D"auto">Jon<br clear=3D"all"><br clear=3D"all"><d=
iv dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=
=3D"gmail_signature">Jonathan J. Einhorn, Esq.<br>Attorney &amp; Counselor =
at Law<br>129 Whitney Avenue<br>New Haven, CT. 06510<br>tel: 203-777-3777<b=
r><a href=3D"mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">einhornla=
woffice@gmail.com</a><br>fax: 203-782-1721<br>cell: 203-623-7373</div></div=
></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_contai=
ner"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 9, 2025 at 12:56=E2=
=80=AFPM Richard Mayor &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com";>boyrace=
r466@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:sol=
id;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv>Yes, just bolt in an MGB rack and pinion. Anywhere will do. No need to w=
orry about that thing called &quot;bump steer&quot;.=C2=A0 Oh, and that rac=
k will have to go in the space where the radiator is currently located.=C2=
=A0 No worries. Just have a custom radiator built that will fit in the new =
forward - angled space - that needs to go forward of the MG rack.=C2=A0 But=
 first, fab up those braces that must be welded to the chassis legs to supp=
ort that new custom radiator.=C2=A0 Last but not=C2=A0least. Reconfigure=C2=
=A0those steering arms for the new steering geometry to=C2=A0eliminate bump=
 steer.=C2=A0 Oh wait, Then there are the universal=C2=A0joints and double =
D steering shaft and that upper part of the=C2=A0column that needs to be cu=
t, modified, supported, braced and massaged to locate the stock steering wh=
eel.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Here&#39;s a photo of my work in progre=
ss for mounting an MGB rack.=C2=A0 It has taken me many, many, hours so far=
.=C2=A0 =C2=A0But your experience could=C2=A0differ.=C2=A0</div></div><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote"></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jun 7, 2025 at 2:44=E2=80=AFPM Jonathan Einho=
rn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">einh=
ornlawoffice@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bo=
rder-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-co=
lor:rgb(204,204,204)"></blockquote></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-wi=
dth:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,=
204,204)"><div dir=3D"auto">Or just replace it with a rack and pinion steer=
ing column from an MG</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Jo=
n<br clear=3D"all"><br clear=3D"all"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr" cla=
ss=3D"gmail_signature">Jonathan J. Einhorn, Esq.<br>Attorney &amp; Counselo=
r at Law<br><a href=3D"https://www.google.com/maps/search/129+Whitney+Avenu=
e+New+Haven,+CT.+06510?entry=3Dgmail&amp;source=3Dg">129 Whitney Avenue</a>=
<br><a href=3D"https://www.google.com/maps/search/129+Whitney+Avenue+New+Ha=
ven,+CT.+06510?entry=3Dgmail&amp;source=3Dg">New Haven, CT. 06510</a><br>te=
l: 203-777-3777<br><a href=3D"mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com"; target=3D"=
_blank">einhornlawoffice@gmail.com</a><br>fax: 203-782-1721<br>cell: 203-62=
3-7373</div></div></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jun 7, 2025 at 4:22=E2=80=AFP=
M Robert Markovich via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net=
" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-wid=
th:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,2=
04,204)"><div>
AH Spares and I believe Denis Welch offer an upgraded box that is promised =
to be nearly as precise as rack and pinion, with a choice of ratios. Also a=
vailable is a=C2=A0jointed =E2=80=9Csafety shaft=E2=80=9D which seems nice =
provided the horn still works from the steering wheel center (a toggle swit=
ch a la Sprite on the dash would have to do for the turn signals with a joi=
nted shaft).=C2=A0<br><br><br><div><a style=3D"font-size:12px" href=3D"http=
s://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661" target=
=3D"_blank">Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS</a><br></div><br><p style=
=3D"font-size:15px;padding-top:15px;margin-top:0px;color:rgb(132,115,255)">=
On Saturday, June 7, 2025, 2:31 PM, Bob Spidell via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>=
&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote><div id=3D"m_-3525588341541725276m_-916625115228=
9089202m_-2999273504852393431yiv3841976741"><div>
    re: &quot;... the Healey steering box is more closely related=C2=A0to a=
 gravel
    truck than a sports car&quot;<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    Yep; it&#39;s &#39;worm-and-peg,&#39; not even high-tech recirculating =
ball.
    Rebuild is doable by a decent shadetree mechanic; hard part is
    getting the whole shaft in and out--a little easier on the
    4-cyls--and rocker shaft bush has to be correctly installed and
    reamed. <br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    bs<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <div id=3D"m_-3525588341541725276m_-9166251152289089202m_-2999273504852=
393431yiv3841976741yqtfd41075"><div>On 6/7/2025 8:13 AM, Harold Manifold
      wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      </blockquote></div></div><div id=3D"m_-3525588341541725276m_-91662511=
52289089202m_-2999273504852393431yiv3841976741yqtfd11059"></div><div><div i=
d=3D"m_-3525588341541725276m_-9166251152289089202m_-2999273504852393431yiv3=
841976741yqtfd22639"><div dir=3D"ltr">Dave,
        <div><br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
        <div>Not sure where you are located but if you can find a shop
          that repairs highway truck steering boxes they can
          repair/rebuild the Healey steering box. It won&#39;t come as a
          surprise to many of us but the Healey steering box is more
          closely related=C2=A0to a gravel truck than a sports car.</div>
        <div><br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
        <div>Harold</div>
        <div><br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
      </div>
      <br clear=3D"none">
      <div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 5:28=E2=80=AFPM
          Richard Kahn via Healeys &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferr=
er" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"=
>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
        <blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px=
;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204=
)">I
          got mine from British Car Specialist. I don=E2=80=99t remember th=
e
          price. I like it. But I got the original rebuilt for a few
          bucks. Now it sits on a shelf awaiting the reduction one to
          fail. The wiring was a little tricky but with the help of a
          friend it is perfect.<br clear=3D"none">
          Sent from my iPhone<br clear=3D"none">
          <br clear=3D"none">
          &gt; On Jun 6, 2025, at 4:31=E2=80=AFPM, David Masucci via Healey=
s
          &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net=
</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
          &gt; <br clear=3D"none">
          &gt; =EF=BB=BFHi Listers,<br clear=3D"none">
          &gt; <br clear=3D"none">
          &gt; The other day I was looking into the modern gear
          reduction starter for the Healey. On the Moss website the
          total included $319.89 for the starter, $24.99 for shipping,
          and $20.00 for tax. The moss total to my door $364.98.<br clear=
=3D"none">
          &gt; <br clear=3D"none">
          &gt; I happen to take a look on Amazon for something relating
          to the Healey, and lo and behold, there was the same starter
          (same image even). The starter was listed at $241.06, free
          shipping, and $15.07 for tax. The Amazon total to my door
          $256.16.<br clear=3D"none">
          &gt; <br clear=3D"none">
          &gt; Your call, but if you=E2=80=99re looking for one of these fo=
r
          your big Healey, that=E2=80=99s a savings of $108.85.<br clear=3D=
"none">
          &gt; <br clear=3D"none">
          &gt; Just an FYI.<br clear=3D"none">
          &gt; <br clear=3D"none">
          &gt; BTW, I was looking to see if I could get a better price
          for a rebuilt steering box. No luck on that one.<br clear=3D"none=
">
          &gt; <br clear=3D"none">
          &gt; Dave<br clear=3D"none">
          &gt; <br clear=3D"none">
          &gt; 64 BJ8<br clear=3D"none">
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