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FWIW, I just installed a DWM 'uprated' box--std. ratio--in my BJ8 that I
bought several years ago. It reduced the play (slop) on the steering
wheel before engagement from roughly 1&1/4" to about 1/4" (not much
worse than the R&Ps on my other cars). It took some getting used to,
since with a Healey that tracks true you don't have to do a lot of fine
correction; i.e. it's not a nuisance. It gradually tightens near full
left lock, but on turning to full right lock it binds with about an inch
or so of wheel turn remaining, then 'pops' free. Not what I expected,
but I can live with it. I'd heard of issues from another owner, and
contacted DWM cust. serv. after I bought it and got a call from an
indignant--is there any other kind of Brit ;)--Jeremy Welch, who
basically said he wanted to 'stop the nonsense.' According to Jeremy,
you wouldn't notice these, uh, 'quirks' because stops in the steering
mechanism--I'm not sure what he was referring to, the steering arms
maybe--would prevent a driver from encountering them. But they're there.
Also, the splines on the shaft aren't machined correctly; my adjustable
steering wheel--an aftermarket Derrington-style with a Moto Lita, I
think, hub--slid easily on the OEM shaft but had to be, um, 'encouraged'
to go on the DWM shaft so it's not (easily) adjustable any more (which
is OK since I always drive with the wheel full forward). The DWM outer
sleeve had a bunch of what looked like tool marks on it; made me wonder
if it wasn't salvaged.
I'd held off installing it because it's a PITA job on a BJ8, but
eventually my old box started leaking more than I can tolerate (yes, I
tried Cornhead Grease). Plus, I installed a rebuilt trafficator that I'd
bought a couple years ago; now it cancels crisply in both directions
(for now). From what I've seen, installing R&P on a Healey is a major
task, welding required IIRC, and I've not seen any 'plug and play' kits.
bs
On 6/7/2025 2:03 PM, Jonathan Einhorn wrote:
> Or just replace it with a rack and pinion steering column from an MG
>
> Jon
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> On Sat, Jun 7, 2025 at 4:22â?¯PM Robert Markovich via Healeys
> <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> AH Spares and I believe Denis Welch offer an upgraded box that is
> promised to be nearly as precise as rack and pinion, with a choice
> of ratios. Also available is a jointed â??safety shaftâ?? which seems
> nice provided the horn still works from the steering wheel center
> (a toggle switch a la Sprite on the dash would have to do for the
> turn signals with a jointed shaft).
>
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> On Saturday, June 7, 2025, 2:31 PM, Bob Spidell via Healeys
> <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> re: "... the Healey steering box is more closely related to a
> gravel truck than a sports car"
>
> Yep; it's 'worm-and-peg,' not even high-tech recirculating
> ball. Rebuild is doable by a decent shadetree mechanic; hard
> part is getting the whole shaft in and out--a little easier on
> the 4-cyls--and rocker shaft bush has to be correctly
> installed and reamed.
>
> bs
>
> On 6/7/2025 8:13 AM, Harold Manifold wrote:
> Dave,
>
> Not sure where you are located but if you can find a shop that
> repairs highway truck steering boxes they can repair/rebuild
> the Healey steering box. It won't come as a surprise to many
> of us but the Healey steering box is more closely related to a
> gravel truck than a sports car.
>
> Harold
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 5:28â?¯PM Richard Kahn via Healeys
> <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> I got mine from British Car Specialist. I donâ??t remember
> the price. I like it. But I got the original rebuilt for a
> few bucks. Now it sits on a shelf awaiting the reduction
> one to fail. The wiring was a little tricky but with the
> help of a friend it is perfect.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 6, 2025, at 4:31â?¯PM, David Masucci via Healeys
> <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Listers,
> >
> > The other day I was looking into the modern gear
> reduction starter for the Healey. On the Moss website the
> total included $319.89 for the starter, $24.99 for
> shipping, and $20.00 for tax. The moss total to my door
> $364.98.
> >
> > I happen to take a look on Amazon for something relating
> to the Healey, and lo and behold, there was the same
> starter (same image even). The starter was listed at
> $241.06, free shipping, and $15.07 for tax. The Amazon
> total to my door $256.16.
> >
> > Your call, but if youâ??re looking for one of these for
> your big Healey, thatâ??s a savings of $108.85.
> >
> > Just an FYI.
> >
> > BTW, I was looking to see if I could get a better price
> for a rebuilt steering box. No luck on that one.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > 64 BJ8
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FWIW, I just installed a DWM 'uprated' box--std. ratio--in my BJ8
that I bought several years ago. It reduced the play (slop) on the
steering wheel before engagement from roughly 1&1/4" to about
1/4" (not much worse than the R&Ps on my other cars). It took
some getting used to, since with a Healey that tracks true you don't
have to do a lot of fine correction; i.e. it's not a nuisance. It
gradually tightens near full left lock, but on turning to full right
lock it binds with about an inch or so of wheel turn remaining, then
'pops' free. Not what I expected, but I can live with it. I'd heard
of issues from another owner, and contacted DWM cust. serv. after I
bought it and got a call from an indignant--is there any other kind
of Brit ;)--Jeremy Welch, who basically said he wanted to 'stop the
nonsense.' According to Jeremy, you wouldn't notice these, uh,
'quirks' because stops in the steering mechanism--I'm not sure what
he was referring to, the steering arms maybe--would prevent a driver
from encountering them. But they're there. Also, the splines on the
shaft aren't machined correctly; my adjustable steering wheel--an
aftermarket Derrington-style with a Moto Lita, I think, hub--slid
easily on the OEM shaft but had to be, um, 'encouraged' to go on the
DWM shaft so it's not (easily) adjustable any more (which is OK
since I always drive with the wheel full forward). The DWM outer
sleeve had a bunch of what looked like tool marks on it; made me
wonder if it wasn't salvaged. <br>
<br>
I'd held off installing it because it's a PITA job on a BJ8, but
eventually my old box started leaking more than I can tolerate (yes,
I tried Cornhead Grease). Plus, I installed a rebuilt trafficator
that I'd bought a couple years ago; now it cancels crisply in both
directions (for now). From what I've seen, installing R&P on a
Healey is a major task, welding required IIRC, and I've not seen any
'plug and play' kits. <br>
<br>
bs<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/7/2025 2:03 PM, Jonathan Einhorn
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Or just replace it with a rack and pinion steering
column from an MG</div>
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Attorney & Counselor at Law<br>
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New Haven, CT. 06510<br>
tel: 203-777-3777<br>
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class="moz-txt-link-freetext">einhornlawoffice@gmail.com</a><br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jun 7, 2025 at
4:22â?¯PM Robert Markovich via Healeys <<a
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div>
AH Spares and I believe Denis Welch offer an upgraded box
that is promised to be nearly as precise as rack and
pinion, with a choice of ratios. Also available is
a jointed â??safety shaftâ?? which seems nice provided the
horn still works from the steering wheel center (a toggle
switch a la Sprite on the dash would have to do for the
turn signals with a jointed shaft). <br>
<br>
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Saturday, June 7, 2025, 2:31 PM, Bob Spidell via Healeys
<<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
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<blockquote>
<div id="m_-2999273504852393431yiv3841976741">
<div> re: "... the Healey steering box is more closely
related to a gravel truck than a sports car"<br
clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Yep; it's 'worm-and-peg,' not even high-tech
recirculating ball. Rebuild is doable by a decent
shadetree mechanic; hard part is getting the whole
shaft in and out--a little easier on the 4-cyls--and
rocker shaft bush has to be correctly installed and
reamed. <br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
bs<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
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id="m_-2999273504852393431yiv3841976741yqtfd41075">
<div>On 6/7/2025 8:13 AM, Harold Manifold wrote:<br
clear="none">
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<div dir="ltr">Dave,
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div>Not sure where you are located but if you
can find a shop that repairs highway truck
steering boxes they can repair/rebuild the
Healey steering box. It won't come as a
surprise to many of us but the Healey steering
box is more closely related to a gravel truck
than a sports car.</div>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div>Harold</div>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
</div>
<br clear="none">
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 5:28â?¯PM
Richard Kahn via Healeys <<a
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
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wrote:<br clear="none">
</div>
<blockquote
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I
got mine from British Car Specialist. I donâ??t
remember the price. I like it. But I got the
original rebuilt for a few bucks. Now it sits
on a shelf awaiting the reduction one to fail.
The wiring was a little tricky but with the
help of a friend it is perfect.<br
clear="none">
Sent from my iPhone<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
> On Jun 6, 2025, at 4:31â?¯PM, David Masucci
via Healeys <<a
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wrote:<br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> Hi Listers,<br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> The other day I was looking into the
modern gear reduction starter for the Healey.
On the Moss website the total included $319.89
for the starter, $24.99 for shipping, and
$20.00 for tax. The moss total to my door
$364.98.<br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> I happen to take a look on Amazon for
something relating to the Healey, and lo and
behold, there was the same starter (same image
even). The starter was listed at $241.06, free
shipping, and $15.07 for tax. The Amazon total
to my door $256.16.<br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> Your call, but if youâ??re looking for one
of these for your big Healey, thatâ??s a savings
of $108.85.<br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> Just an FYI.<br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> BTW, I was looking to see if I could get
a better price for a rebuilt steering box. No
luck on that one.<br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> Dave<br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> 64 BJ8<br clear="none">
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