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I would say - a lot quicker engagement.
Richard Mayor
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> On Oct 19, 2024, at 8:22 PM, Bob Spidell via Healeys =
<healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> Little quicker engagement.
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>> What are the pros & cons of fitting the beerier accumulator to the =
Healey OD?
>> Gary H
>>=20
>> On Friday, October 18, 2024 at 10:20:21 PM CDT, Bob Spidell via =
>>=20
>>=20
>> Note the kickdown can be used to, uh, kick down. Say you're following =
slow traffic in top/OD, and you see a chance to pass coming up; you =
throw the dash switch and when it's clear you stomp on the accelerator =
pedal, the O/D will disengage and you're in a lower gear to pass. =
Doesn't work great--I usually drop a gear too--but it's doable. Note =
older cars with automatics usually have them, rigged to the throttle =
linkage.
>>=20
>> Triumphs, and others, also have a beefier accumulator for faster =
engagement (a mod sold by DWM and others).
>>=20
>>=20
>> On 10/18/2024 4:44 PM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:
>>=20
>> Michael,
>>=20
>> Yes, agreed. He said the same to me in a discussion as to why =
Triumphs don=E2=80=99t have the kickdown whereas the Healeys do. =
Actually that wasn=E2=80=99t long after your visit.
>>=20
>> (Dave Twigger is pretty much The Man in the UK overdrive world. So =
far as I recall, his father-in-law bought all the overdrive spares when =
Laycock stopped manufacturing. Or something like that. Bit like Fred at =
AH Spares? He=E2=80=99s a nice guy, very helpful.)
>>=20
>> =20
>> Simon
>>=20
>> =20
>> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> =
>> Sent: 18 October 2024 23:25
>> Cc: healey list <healeys@autox.team.net> =
>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] OD switch
>>=20
>> =20
>> As explained to me Dave Twigger the purpose of the kickdown switch is =
to prevent the overdrive unit being subjected to reverse torque which it =
is not designed to handle.
>>=20
>> As I understand it, if the overdrive is treated with respect, and =
the clutch is used during disengagement there will be no problems but, =
if you flip the switch off when cruising at high speed without using the =
clutch to minimize the reverse loading on the overdrive, the planetary =
gear assembly can be severly damaged.=20
>>=20
>> The kickdown switch prevents this.
>>=20
>> =20
>> M
>>=20
>> =20
>> On Fri., Oct. 18, 2024, 4:18 p.m. Don via Healeys, =
>>=20
>> Hi All=20
>> I installed the new OD brass drain plug with the o ring and so =
far =F0=9F=A4=9E=F0=9F=8F=BBnot a drip of oil anywhere. I think it=E2=80=99=
s a great design by Cape International.=20
>> I did see someone posted about eliminating the od switch on the =
firewall and just needing to use the switch on the dash . No more =
needing to Blip the throttle to activate the od . Could that someone =
please explain the wiring needed to make this change . It sounds like =
another modern up grade to make our driving experience easier.=20
>> Thanks as always , Don=20
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class=3D"">On Oct 19, 2024, at 8:22 PM, Bob Spidell via Healeys <<a =
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Little quicker engagement.<br class=3D"">
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<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 10/19/2024 2:27 PM,
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href=3D"mailto:warthodson@aol.com";>warthodson@aol.com</a> wrote:<br =
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<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">What are the =
pros & cons
of fitting the beerier accumulator to the Healey =
OD?</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">Gary H</div>
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<div class=3D"ydp389928f8quoted-text-header"> On Friday,
October 18, 2024 at 10:20:21 PM CDT, Bob Spidell via
Healeys <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";><healeys@autox.team.net></a> =
wrote: </div>
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<div class=3D""> Note the kickdown can be used to, uh, =
kick down.
Say you're following slow traffic in top/OD, and you
see a chance to pass coming up; you throw the dash
switch and when it's clear you stomp on the
accelerator pedal, the O/D will disengage and you're
in a lower gear to pass. Doesn't work great--I usually
drop a gear too--but it's doable. Note older cars with
automatics usually have them, rigged to the throttle
linkage.<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
Triumphs, and others, also have a beefier accumulator
for faster engagement (a mod sold by DWM and =
others).<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
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<div =
class=3D"ydp389928f8yiv5196140530moz-cite-prefix">On
10/18/2024 4:44 PM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys
wrote:<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
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<div class=3D"ydp389928f8yiv5196140530WordSection1"><p=
class=3D"ydp389928f8yiv5196140530MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-family:New serif;" class=3D"">Michael, </span></p><p =
class=3D"ydp389928f8yiv5196140530MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:New=
serif;" class=3D"">Yes, agreed. He
said the same to me in a discussion as to why
Triumphs don=E2=80=99t have the kickdown =
whereas the
Healeys do. Actually that wasn=E2=80=99t long =
after
your visit.</span></p><p =
class=3D"ydp389928f8yiv5196140530MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:New=
serif;" class=3D"">(Dave Twigger
is pretty much The Man in the UK overdrive
world. So far as I recall, his father-in-law
bought all the overdrive spares when Laycock
stopped manufacturing. Or something like that.
Bit like Fred at AH Spares? He=E2=80=99s a =
nice guy,
very helpful.)</span></p><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family:New serif;" class=3D""> </span><br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p =
class=3D"ydp389928f8yiv5196140530MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:New=
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style=3D"font-family:New serif;" class=3D""> </span><br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;" class=3D""><p =
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lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;" class=3D""> Healeys =
<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
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<b class=3D"">On Behalf Of </b>Michael =
Salter<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
<b class=3D"">Sent:</b> 18 October 2024 =
23:25<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
<b class=3D"">To:</b> Don Day <a =
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target=3D"_blank" =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true"><fsufan1952@yahoo.com></a><br =
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<b class=3D"">Cc:</b> healey list <a =
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class=3D"ydp389928f8yiv5196140530moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel=3D"nofollow" =
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<b class=3D"">Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] OD =
switch</span></p>
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<div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"ydp389928f8yiv5196140530MsoNormal">As
explained to me Dave Twigger the purpose of
the kickdown switch is to prevent the
overdrive unit being subjected to reverse
torque which it is not designed to handle.</p>
<div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"ydp389928f8yiv5196140530MsoNormal">As
I understand it, if the overdrive is
treated with respect, and the clutch is used
during disengagement there will be no
problems but, if you flip the switch off
when cruising at high speed without using
the clutch to minimize the reverse loading
on the overdrive, the planetary gear
assembly can be severly damaged. </p>
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<div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"ydp389928f8yiv5196140530MsoNormal">The
kickdown switch prevents this.</p>
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class=3D"ydp389928f8yiv5196140530MsoNormal">On
Fri., Oct. 18, 2024, 4:18 p.m. Don via
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class=3D"ydp389928f8yiv5196140530MsoNormal">Hi
All <br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
I installed the new OD =
brass drain
plug with the o ring and so far <span =
style=3D"font-family:UI sans-serif;" class=3D"">=F0=9F=A4=9E=F0=9F=8F=BB</=
span>not
a drip of oil anywhere. I think it=E2=80=99s =
a great
design by Cape International. <br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
I did see someone posted about eliminating
the od switch on the firewall and just
needing to use the switch on the dash . No
more needing to Blip the throttle to
activate the od . Could that someone please
explain the wiring needed to make this
change . It sounds like another modern up
grade to make our driving experience easier.
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