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Re: [Healeys] OD switch

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] OD switch
From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 23:16:22 +0100
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Well, in my opinion, it=E2=80=99s a bit like fitting a lightened =
flywheel=E2=80=A6..you notice and appreciate it at first but then you =
get used to it and it=E2=80=99s as if it was always there. If you see =
what I mean!=20

I=E2=80=99ve got both, like them both but pretty much forget what it was =
like before I made the changes. Having said that, I would say that, if =
you=E2=80=99re digging around in the OD, you may as well put in the =
modern equivalents=E2=80=A6.beefier accumulator etc. Easy for me to say, =
over here in the UK, but I=E2=80=99d contact Dave and tell him what you =
want to achieve and ask him what you need. Then, with what I think is a =
decent exchange rate, buy it from him.

Simon

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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of =
warthodson--- via Healeys
Sent: 19 October 2024 22:27
To: healeys@autox.team.net; Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] OD switch

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What are the pros & cons of fitting the beerier  accumulator to the =
Healey OD?

Gary H

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On Friday, October 18, 2024 at 10:20:21 PM CDT, Bob Spidell via Healeys =

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Note the kickdown can be used to, uh, kick down. Say you're following =
slow traffic in top/OD, and you see a chance to pass coming up; you =
throw the dash switch and when it's clear you stomp on the accelerator =
pedal, the O/D will disengage and you're in a lower gear to pass. =
Doesn't work great--I usually drop a gear too--but it's doable. Note =
older cars with automatics usually have them, rigged to the throttle =
linkage.

Triumphs, and others, also have a beefier accumulator for faster =
engagement (a mod sold by DWM and others).



On 10/18/2024 4:44 PM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:

Michael,=20

Yes, agreed. He said the same to me in a discussion as to why Triumphs =
don=E2=80=99t have the kickdown whereas the Healeys do. Actually that =
wasn=E2=80=99t long after your visit.

(Dave Twigger is pretty much The Man in the UK overdrive world. So far =
as I recall, his father-in-law bought all the overdrive spares when =
Laycock stopped manufacturing. Or something like that. Bit like Fred at =
AH Spares? He=E2=80=99s a nice guy, very helpful.)

=20

Simon

=20

<healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Salter
Sent: 18 October 2024 23:25
<healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] OD switch

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As explained to me Dave Twigger the purpose of the kickdown switch is to =
prevent the overdrive unit being subjected to reverse torque which it is =
not designed to handle.

As I  understand it, if the overdrive is treated with respect, and the =
clutch is used during disengagement there will be no problems but, if =
you flip the switch off when cruising at high speed without using the =
clutch to minimize the reverse loading on the overdrive, the planetary =
gear assembly can be severly damaged.=20

The kickdown switch prevents this.

=20

M

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On Fri., Oct. 18, 2024, 4:18 p.m. Don via Healeys, =

Hi All=20
      I installed the new OD brass drain plug with the o ring and so far =
=F0=9F=A4=9E=F0=9F=8F=BBnot a drip of oil anywhere. I think it=E2=80=99s =
a great design by Cape International.=20
I did see someone posted about eliminating the od switch on the firewall =
and just needing to use the switch on the dash . No more needing to Blip =
the throttle to activate the od . Could that someone please explain the =
wiring needed to make this change . It sounds like another modern up =
grade to make our driving experience easier.=20
      Thanks as always , Don=20
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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Well, in my opinion, =
it=E2=80=99s a bit like fitting a lightened flywheel=E2=80=A6..you =
notice and appreciate it at first but then you get used to it and =
it=E2=80=99s as if it was always there. If you see what I mean! =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I=E2=80=99ve got both, like =
them both but pretty much forget what it was like before I made the =
changes. Having said that, I would say that, if you=E2=80=99re digging =
around in the OD, you may as well put in the modern =
equivalents=E2=80=A6.beefier accumulator etc. Easy for me to say, over =
here in the UK, but I=E2=80=99d contact Dave and tell him what you want =
to achieve and ask him what you need. Then, with what I think is a =
decent exchange rate, buy it from him.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div=
><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt =
0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Healeys =
&lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>warthodson--- =
via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> 19 October 2024 22:27<br><b>To:</b> =
healeys@autox.team.net; Bob Spidell =
&lt;bspidell@comcast.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] OD =
switch<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>What are =
the pros &amp; cons of fitting the beerier&nbsp; accumulator to the =
Healey OD?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Gary =
H<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"ydp389928f8yahoo_quoted_9997262861"><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>On Friday, October 18, 2024 at 10:20:21 PM CDT, Bob Spidell via =
Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:6.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><div =
id=3Dydp389928f8yiv5196140530><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Note the kickdown can be used to, uh, kick down. Say you're following =
slow traffic in top/OD, and you see a chance to pass coming up; you =
throw the dash switch and when it's clear you stomp on the accelerator =
pedal, the O/D will disengage and you're in a lower gear to pass. =
Doesn't work great--I usually drop a gear too--but it's doable. Note =
older cars with automatics usually have them, rigged to the throttle =
linkage.<br><br>Triumphs, and others, also have a beefier accumulator =
for faster engagement (a mod sold by DWM and =
others).<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
id=3Dydp389928f8yiv5196140530yqt13353><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>On 10/18/2024 4:44 PM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div =
id=3Dydp389928f8yiv5196140530yqt82487><div><div><p =
class=3Dydp389928f8yiv5196140530msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"New =
serif",serif;color:#26282A'>Michael, </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp389928f8yiv5196140530msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"New =
serif",serif;color:#26282A'>Yes, agreed. He said the same to me in a =
discussion as to why Triumphs don=E2=80=99t have the kickdown whereas =
the Healeys do. Actually that wasn=E2=80=99t long after your =
visit.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp389928f8yiv5196140530msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"New =
serif",serif;color:#26282A'>(Dave Twigger is pretty much The Man in the =
UK overdrive world. So far as I recall, his father-in-law bought all the =
overdrive spares when Laycock stopped manufacturing. Or something like =
that. Bit like Fred at AH Spares? He=E2=80=99s a nice guy, very =
helpful.)</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp389928f8yiv5196140530msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"New =
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A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp389928f8yiv5196140530msonormal><span =
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A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid =
#E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>F=
rom:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> =
Healeys <a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">&lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</a> <b>On =
Behalf Of </b>Michael Salter<br><b>Sent:</b> 18 October 2024 =
23:25<br><b>To:</b> Don Day <a href=3D"mailto:fsufan1952@yahoo.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">&lt;fsufan1952@yahoo.com&gt;</a><br><b>Cc:</b> healey =
list <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br><b>Subject:</b> =
Re: [Healeys] OD switch</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3Dydp389928f8yiv5196140530msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3Dydp389928f8yiv5196140530msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>As explained to me Dave Twigger the purpose of the kickdown switch is =
to prevent the overdrive unit being subjected to reverse torque which it =
is not designed to handle.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3Dydp389928f8yiv5196140530msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>As I&nbsp; understand it, if the overdrive is treated with respect, =
and the clutch is used during disengagement there will be no problems =
but, if you flip the switch off when cruising at high speed without =
using the clutch to minimize the reverse loading on the overdrive, the =
planetary gear assembly can be severly =
damaged.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dydp389928f8yiv5196140530msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>The kickdown switch prevents this.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dydp389928f8yiv5196140530msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dydp389928f8yiv5196140530msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>M<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3Dydp389928f8yiv5196140530msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p =
class=3Dydp389928f8yiv5196140530msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>On Fri., Oct. 18, 2024, 4:18 p.m. Don via Healeys, &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
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style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Hi All <br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I installed the new OD brass drain =
plug with the o ring and so far </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI =
Emoji",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>&#129310;&#127995;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>not a drip of oil anywhere. I think it=E2=80=99s a great design by =
Cape International. <br>I did see someone posted about eliminating the =
od switch on the firewall and just needing to use the switch on the dash =
 No more needing to Blip the throttle to activate the od . Could that =
someone please explain the wiring needed to make this change . It sounds =
like another modern up grade to make our driving experience easier. =
<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Thanks as always , Don <br>Sent from my =
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