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Re: [Healeys] OD switch - CORRECTION

To: "healeys@autox.team.net" <healeys@autox.team.net>, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] OD switch - CORRECTION
From: warthodson--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 22:55:54 +0000 (UTC)
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 Correction: That should have been "Beefier"=C2=A0    On Saturday, October =
19, 2024 at 04:53:11 PM CDT, warthodson--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.=
net> wrote:  =20

  What are the pros & cons of fitting the beerier=C2=A0 accumulator to the =
Healey OD?Gary H
    On Friday, October 18, 2024 at 10:20:21 PM CDT, Bob Spidell via Healeys=
 <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:  =20

  Note the kickdown can be used to, uh, kick down. Say you're following slo=
w traffic in top/OD, and you see a chance to pass coming up; you throw the =
dash switch and when it's clear you stomp on the accelerator pedal, the O/D=
 will disengage and you're in a lower gear to pass. Doesn't work great--I u=
sually drop a gear too--but it's doable. Note older cars with automatics us=
ually have them, rigged to the throttle linkage.
=20
 Triumphs, and others, also have a beefier accumulator for faster engagemen=
t (a mod sold by DWM and others).
=20
=20
 On 10/18/2024 4:44 PM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:
 =20
=20
=20
Michael,=20
=20
Yes, agreed. He said the same to me in a discussion as to why Triumphs don=
=E2=80=99t have the kickdown whereas the Healeys do. Actually that wasn=E2=
=80=99t long after your visit.
=20
(Dave Twigger is pretty much The Man in the UK overdrive world. So far as I=
 recall, his father-in-law bought all the overdrive spares when Laycock sto=
pped manufacturing. Or something like that. Bit like Fred at AH Spares? He=
=E2=80=99s a nice guy, very helpful.)
=20
 =C2=A0
=20
Simon
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 =C2=A0
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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Salter
 Sent: 18 October 2024 23:25
 To: Don Day <fsufan1952@yahoo.com>
 Cc: healey list <healeys@autox.team.net>
 Subject: Re: [Healeys] OD switch
 =20
 =C2=A0
 =20
As explained to me Dave Twigger the purpose of the kickdown switch is to pr=
event the overdrive unit being subjected to reverse torque which it is not =
designed to handle.
 =20
As I=C2=A0 understand it, if the overdrive is treated with respect, and the=
 clutch is used during disengagement there will be no problems but, if you =
flip the switch off when cruising at high speed without using the clutch to=
 minimize the reverse loading on the overdrive, the planetary gear assembly=
 can be severly damaged.=C2=A0
  =20
The kickdown switch prevents this.
  =20
 =C2=A0
  =20
M
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On Fri., Oct. 18, 2024, 4:18 p.m. Don via Healeys, <healeys@autox.team.net>=
 wrote:
 =20
=20
Hi All=20
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I installed the new OD brass drain plug with the o ri=
ng and so far =F0=9F=A4=9E=F0=9F=8F=BBnot a drip of oil anywhere. I think i=
t=E2=80=99s a great design by Cape International.=20
 I did see someone posted about eliminating the od switch on the firewall a=
nd just needing to use the switch on the dash . No more needing to Blip the=
 throttle to activate the od . Could that someone please explain the wiring=
 needed to make this change . It sounds like another modern up grade to mak=
e our driving experience easier.=20
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thanks as always , Don=20
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Correction: That should have=
 been "Beefier"</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">&nbsp;</div>
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                        On Saturday, October 19, 2024 at 04:53:11 PM CDT, w=
arthodson--- via Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
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        <div dir=3D"ltr">What are the pros &amp; cons of fitting the beerie=
r&nbsp; accumulator to the Healey OD?</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Gary H</div><di=
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                        On Friday, October 18, 2024 at 10:20:21 PM CDT, Bob=
 Spidell via Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
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40530"><div>
    Note the kickdown can be used to, uh, kick down. Say you're
    following slow traffic in top/OD, and you see a chance to pass
    coming up; you throw the dash switch and when it's clear you stomp
    on the accelerator pedal, the O/D will disengage and you're in a
    lower gear to pass. Doesn't work great--I usually drop a gear
    too--but it's doable. Note older cars with automatics usually have
    them, rigged to the throttle linkage.<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    Triumphs, and others, also have a beefier accumulator for faster
    engagement (a mod sold by DWM and others).<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <div id=3D"ydpad8e8a50yiv7464683463ydp389928f8yiv5196140530yqt13353" cl=
ass=3D"ydpad8e8a50yiv7464683463ydp389928f8yiv5196140530yqt3079601209"><div =
class=3D"ydpad8e8a50yiv7464683463ydp389928f8yiv5196140530moz-cite-prefix">O=
n 10/18/2024 4:44 PM, Simon Lachlan
      via Healeys wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      </blockquote></div></div><div id=3D"ydpad8e8a50yiv7464683463ydp389928=
f8yiv5196140530yqt82487" class=3D"ydpad8e8a50yiv7464683463ydp389928f8yiv519=
6140530yqt3079601209"><div><div class=3D"ydpad8e8a50yiv7464683463ydp389928f=
8yiv5196140530WordSection1">
        <p class=3D"ydpad8e8a50yiv7464683463ydp389928f8yiv5196140530MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-family:New serif;">Michael,
            </span></p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydpad8e8a50yiv7464683463ydp389928f8yiv5196140530MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-family:New serif;">Yes,
            agreed. He said the same to me in a discussion as to why
            Triumphs don=E2=80=99t have the kickdown whereas the Healeys do=
.
            Actually that wasn=E2=80=99t long after your visit.</span></p>=
=20
        <p class=3D"ydpad8e8a50yiv7464683463ydp389928f8yiv5196140530MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-family:New serif;">(Dave
            Twigger is pretty much The Man in the UK overdrive world. So
            far as I recall, his father-in-law bought all the overdrive
            spares when Laycock stopped manufacturing. Or something like
            that. Bit like Fred at AH Spares? He=E2=80=99s a nice guy, very
            helpful.)</span></p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydpad8e8a50yiv7464683463ydp389928f8yiv5196140530MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-family:New serif;"> &nbsp;</span></p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydpad8e8a50yiv7464683463ydp389928f8yiv5196140530MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-family:New serif;">Simon</span></p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydpad8e8a50yiv7464683463ydp389928f8yiv5196140530MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-family:New serif;"> &nbsp;</span></p>=20
        <div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.=
0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;">
          <p class=3D"ydpad8e8a50yiv7464683463ydp389928f8yiv5196140530MsoNo=
rmal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-se=
rif;">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">
              Healeys <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@auto=
x.team.net" class=3D"ydpad8e8a50yiv7464683463ydp389928f8yiv5196140530moz-tx=
t-link-rfc2396E" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">&lt;healeys-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net&gt;</a> <b>On
                Behalf Of </b>Michael Salter<br clear=3D"none">
              <b>Sent:</b> 18 October 2024 23:25<br clear=3D"none">
              <b>To:</b> Don Day <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:fsufan195=
2@yahoo.com" class=3D"ydpad8e8a50yiv7464683463ydp389928f8yiv5196140530moz-t=
xt-link-rfc2396E" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">&lt;fsufan1952@yahoo.c=
om&gt;</a><br clear=3D"none">
              <b>Cc:</b> healey list <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:heale=
ys@autox.team.net" class=3D"ydpad8e8a50yiv7464683463ydp389928f8yiv519614053=
0moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">&lt;healeys@auto=
x.team.net&gt;</a><br clear=3D"none">
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] OD switch</span></p>=20
        </div>
        <p class=3D"ydpad8e8a50yiv7464683463ydp389928f8yiv5196140530MsoNorm=
al"> &nbsp;</p>=20
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          <p class=3D"ydpad8e8a50yiv7464683463ydp389928f8yiv5196140530MsoNo=
rmal">As explained to me Dave Twigger the
            purpose of the kickdown switch is to prevent the overdrive
            unit being subjected to reverse torque which it is not
            designed to handle.</p>=20
          <div>
            <p class=3D"ydpad8e8a50yiv7464683463ydp389928f8yiv5196140530Mso=
Normal">As I&nbsp; understand it, if the overdrive
              is treated with respect, and the clutch is used during
              disengagement there will be no problems but, if you flip
              the switch off when cruising at high speed without using
              the clutch to minimize the reverse loading on the
              overdrive, the planetary gear assembly can be severly
              damaged.&nbsp;</p>=20
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"ydpad8e8a50yiv7464683463ydp389928f8yiv5196140530Mso=
Normal">The kickdown switch prevents this.</p>=20
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"ydpad8e8a50yiv7464683463ydp389928f8yiv5196140530Mso=
Normal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
          </div>
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            <p class=3D"ydpad8e8a50yiv7464683463ydp389928f8yiv5196140530Mso=
Normal">M</p>=20
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        <p class=3D"ydpad8e8a50yiv7464683463ydp389928f8yiv5196140530MsoNorm=
al"> &nbsp;</p>=20
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          <div>
            <p class=3D"ydpad8e8a50yiv7464683463ydp389928f8yiv5196140530Mso=
Normal">On Fri., Oct. 18, 2024, 4:18 p.m. Don
              via Healeys, &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:healeys@aut=
ox.team.net" class=3D"ydpad8e8a50yiv7464683463ydp389928f8yiv5196140530moz-t=
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              wrote:</p>=20
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padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm;">
            <p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"ydpad8e8a50yiv74646=
83463ydp389928f8yiv5196140530MsoNormal">Hi All <br clear=3D"none">
              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I installed the new OD brass drain plug =
with the o
              ring and so far <span style=3D"font-family:UI sans-serif;">=
=F0=9F=A4=9E=F0=9F=8F=BB</span>not
              a drip of oil anywhere. I think it=E2=80=99s a great design b=
y
              Cape International. <br clear=3D"none">
              I did see someone posted about eliminating the od switch
              on the firewall and just needing to use the switch on the
              dash . No more needing to Blip the throttle to activate
              the od . Could that someone please explain the wiring
              needed to make this change . It sounds like another modern
              up grade to make our driving experience easier. <br clear=3D"=
none">
              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Thanks as always , Don <br clear=3D"none=
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              Sent from my iPhone<br clear=3D"none">
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