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The most rational, pragmatic swap at this point would be to an electric
motor and batteries; done right, it would blow the doors off an LS or
Coyote swap (up to a 100MPH or so, I wouldn't push a Healey chassis much
past that, for long anyway-BTDT). How many owners do more than day trips
anyway (my days of 5K mile trips are, unfortunately, in the past).
I wanted a big V8-powered car with all the modern improvements, so I
bought a Mustang GT and left my Healeys as Austins (Jensens) un-mutated,
and without the 20-50% drop in market value* (my survivors will have to
sell my Healeys someday). 475HP--480 if I could get 93-octane--disks all
around (Brembos in front), electric throttle and steering (several
modes), 19x9/10 wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport 4ses, IRS, MagneRide
and Steeda suspension upgrades (the IRS is a bit shaky); 0-60 under 5s
(supposedly; I'm not good enough and the A10s are quicker). Bigger and
heavier; I reckon a Nasty Boy would take me on a narrow twisty, but on
the sweepers and straights it's sayonara. The Mustang hauls ass, and
it's fun, but the Austin-Healeys are simply more satisfying to drive--by
far--warts and all.
Disclaimer: I am very much an "It's your car, do what you want with it"
person. I've made small mods to my cars: Pertonix Ignitors in both;
taller rear-end for highway driveability, Texas Cooler with shroud in
the BJ8 but I never have, and never will, understand why people buy a
car they don't actually want just to change it (owners with
broken/missing engines who think 'Why not?' I can see). Why not buy a
Saxon and build it up the way you want it from scratch? Oh, and for the
record, I don't much care for breast implants either; just not the same.
* Just my observations from BaT, FB, mailing lists, etc.; I've yet to
see a Nasty Boy cross the block at B-J or Mecums--doen't mean it hasn't
happened--but the muscle car 'restomods' with SBCs, LSes, etc. are a
dime-a-dozen and, IMO, not particularly unique or imaginative (they do
have garish paint jobs though).
On 2/9/2024 10:25 PM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:
> I love my LS1 swap. Â It was a lot of work. Â Aluminum dual passage
> Wizard radiator with 15â?? spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110 heat
> index and car stays right at 195 degrees. Â Lots of work to get the
> alternator to fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap
> kit. Â Everything barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch between
> the electric radiator fan and my water pump. Had to cut the steering
> shaft and u joint. Â Works great.
> Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited
> slip diff and it works perfectly. Â 72â?? Daytona wire wheels with 205
> wide tires. Â Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so much
> lighter it was up in the air by 2-3â??. Â It rides and handles so well.
> Â My car was a 1959 100-6 so it wasnâ??t worth as much stock as a BJ8. Â I
> feel my value went up.
> I love my reliability and the torque is amazing. Â Car is so much fun
> to slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go. Â I would never go back
> to the heavy iron block. Â I feel this an aluminum V8 would have been
> Healeyâ??s first choice if GM would have worked with him.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Chris Scholz OD
>
>> On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58â?¯PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as
>> "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making
>> engine and transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the
>> footwells so the motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place.Â
>> It's all the other stuff you need to do that will really add the
>> work. New electrical system, radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system,
>> transmission shifter, etc, etc. It's worth it in the end if you want
>> a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also knock off about 30 percent of your
>> car's value or more. You can see the work I had to do to put a Ford
>> 5.0L and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here:
>> http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264 The Ford 5.0 is narrower
>> than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a huge
>> difference. LS motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard with
>> low mileage now and with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very
>> helpful. I did about 50-75% of the swap myself, except for the
>> engine rebuild and body fabrication. My car has 350 hp and I run the
>> stock rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72 spoke wires. Much more
>> power than that and those parts will start braking. A good engine
>> swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one it will be a nightmare
>> forever. Chris did a really nice swap with his LS but he can speak to
>> how much work it was.
>>
>> My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be to
>> try a replacement Healey 6.
>>
>> Best of Luck,
>> Rick
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11â?¯PM <rfbegani@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement. Chris just made that
>> suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans. My Bother is a
>> retired GM mechanic, and he agrees. Did you do the exchange?Â
>> What engine trans etc. did you use? All options are on the table.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> *From:* HealeyRick <healeyrik@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
>> *To:* rfbegani@gmail.com
>> *Cc:* healeys@autox.team.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>>
>> Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems
>> correct. Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.Â
>> Maybe trying to find a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is
>> the best of a bad group of choices. Too bad, I gave away a bare
>> block with caps from a BJ7 a few years ago for a donation to our
>> club charity. I'd put a wanted ad in the club magazines and
>> Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there might
>> have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they
>> have one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and
>> put a V8 in there!
>>
>> Best of luck,
>>
>> Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12â?¯AM <rfbegani@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Gentlemen:
>>
>> I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67
>> Austin-Healey. Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine,
>> looked at the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to
>> have towed home, I drove it back slowly. Last month, I
>> dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps
>> and bearings. My mechanic friend said you got lucky the
>> crank may only need polishing and new bearings. So, I packed
>> and marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings
>> along with piston rods and caps in individual plastic bags.
>> Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which was put
>> under the workbench near the garbage. We towed the car to
>> Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.Â
>> Tuesday, he asked me to bring the parts I had removed from
>> the engine so he would have everything in one place. I
>> looked around but could not find this black plastic bag and
>> then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now
>> up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?
>>
>> 1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing
>> caps are not available and even if you could find them,
>> they would need to be line bored on the engine.
>> 2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with
>> original main bearing caps is almost impossible.
>> 3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
>>
>> My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything
>> new, so I would like to find a way of fixing the existing
>> engine, if possible.
>>
>> Please give me your advice.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Bob Begani
>>
>> 67 Austin-Healey BJ8
>>
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The most rational, pragmatic swap at this point would be to an
electric motor and batteries; done right, it would blow the doors
off an LS or Coyote swap (up to a 100MPH or so, I wouldn't push a
Healey chassis much past that, for long anyway-BTDT). How many
owners do more than day trips anyway (my days of 5K mile trips are,
unfortunately, in the past). <br>
<br>
I wanted a big V8-powered car with all the modern improvements, so I
bought a Mustang GT and left my Healeys as Austins (Jensens)
un-mutated, and without the 20-50% drop in market value* (my
survivors will have to sell my Healeys someday). 475HP--480 if I
could get 93-octane--disks all around (Brembos in front), electric
throttle and steering (several modes), 19x9/10 wheels with Michelin
Pilot Sport 4ses, IRS, MagneRide and Steeda suspension upgrades (the
IRS is a bit shaky); 0-60 under 5s (supposedly; I'm not good enough
and the A10s are quicker). Bigger and heavier; I reckon a Nasty Boy
would take me on a narrow twisty, but on the sweepers and straights
it's sayonara. The Mustang hauls ass, and it's fun, but the
Austin-Healeys are simply more satisfying to drive--by far--warts
and all.<br>
<br>
Disclaimer: I am very much an "It's your car, do what you want with
it" person. I've made small mods to my cars: Pertonix Ignitors in
both; taller rear-end for highway driveability, Texas Cooler with
shroud in the BJ8 but I never have, and never will, understand why
people buy a car they don't actually want just to change it (owners
with broken/missing engines who think 'Why not?' I can see). Why not
buy a Saxon and build it up the way you want it from scratch? Oh,
and for the record, I don't much care for breast implants either;
just not the same.<br>
<br>
* Just my observations from BaT, FB, mailing lists, etc.; I've yet
to see a Nasty Boy cross the block at B-J or Mecums--doen't mean it
hasn't happened--but the muscle car 'restomods' with SBCs, LSes,
etc. are a dime-a-dozen and, IMO, not particularly unique or
imaginative (they do have garish paint jobs though).<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/9/2024 10:25 PM, Chris Scholz via
Healeys wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:3173E0B5-C514-494A-8EDC-08A9949F75E7@visioncenterpc.com">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
I love my LS1 swap. Â It was a lot of work. Â Aluminum dual passage
Wizard radiator with 15â?? spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110
heat index and car stays right at 195 degrees. Â Lots of work to
get the alternator to fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep
wrangler LS swap kit. Â Everything barely fit longitudinally-there
is one inch between the electric radiator fan and my water pump. Â
Had to cut the steering shaft and u joint. Â Works great. Â
<div>Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife
limited slip diff and it works perfectly. Â 72â?? Daytona wire
wheels with 205 wide tires. Â Lowered the front spring perches
-my front was so much lighter it was up in the air by 2-3â??. Â It
rides and handles so well. Â My car was a 1959 100-6 so it wasnâ??t
worth as much stock as a BJ8. Â I feel my value went up. Â Â </div>
<div>I love my reliability and the torque is amazing. Â Car is so
much fun to slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go. Â I would
never go back to the heavy iron block. Â I feel this an aluminum
V8 would have been Healeyâ??s first choice if GM would have worked
with him. Â </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone
<div>Chris Scholz OD</div>
</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
<blockquote type="cite">On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58â?¯PM, HealeyRick
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com";><healeyrik@gmail.com></a> wrote:<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken
lightly. It's not as simple as "dropping in a V8". That's
the easy part, mostly focusing on making engine and
transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the
footwells so the motor will fit with the exhaust headers
in place. It's all the other stuff you need to do that
will really add the work. New electrical system, radiator,
upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter, etc,
etc. It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra,
but you'll also knock off about 30 percent of your car's
value or more. You can see the work I had to do to put a
Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here:Â <a
href="http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264";
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264</a>Â
The Ford 5.0 is narrower than the Chevy LS so less body
cutting to do, but not a huge difference. LS motors are
more likely to be found in a junkyard with low mileage now
and with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very
helpful. I did about 50-75% of the swap myself, except
for the engine rebuild and body fabrication. My car has
350 hp and I run the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and
Dayton 72 spoke wires. Much more power than that and
those parts will start braking. A good engine swap is
really a joy, but if you do a bad one it will be a
nightmare forever. Chris did a really nice swap with his
LS but he can speak to how much work it was.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>My first choice if you don't have that "Need for
Speed" would be to try a replacement Healey 6.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best of Luck,</div>
<div>Rick</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at
2:11â?¯PM <<a href="mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div class="msg844539055149806779">
<div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" lang="EN-US">
<div class="m_844539055149806779WordSection1">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Funny you should
suggest a v8 replacement. Chris just made
that suggestion to install an LS1 with GM
Trans. My Bother is a retired GM mechanic,
and he agrees. Did you do the exchange? What
engine trans etc. did you use? All options
are on the table.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Â </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Bob</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Â </span></p>
<div
style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt
solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> HealeyRick
<<a href="mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com";
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeyrik@gmail.com</a>>
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a
href="mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rfbegani@gmail.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine
Rebuild failure</p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Â </p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sorry to hear this Bob.
What you've been told so far seems correct.
Without the main bearing caps you're in a
tough spot. Maybe trying to find a BJ8 block
or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a
bad group of choices. Too bad, I gave away a
bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few years
ago for a donation to our club charity. I'd
put a wanted ad in the club magazines and
Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone
out there might have one. Try Hemphills,
Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have
one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do
what I did and put a V8 in there!</p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Â </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best of luck,</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Rick Neville aka
"HealeyRick"</p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Â </p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at
11:12â?¯AM <<a
href="mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
</div>
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solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in
6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
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<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Gentlemen:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Â </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I arrived back to
Florida in May and decide to drive
my 67 Austin-Healey. Drove it a
mile and heard clanking engine,
looked at the oil pressure, It was
O! Instead of stooping to have towed
home, I drove it back slowly. Last
month, I dropped the pan and started
to remove the rod and crank caps and
bearings. My mechanic friend said
you got lucky the crank may only
need polishing and new bearings.Â
So, I packed and marked each of the
main bearing caps, bolts, and
bearings along with piston rods and
caps in individual plastic bags.
Then packed them into a larger
plastic bag which was put under the
workbench near the garbage. We
towed the car to Mikes garage so he
could pull and disassemble the
engine. Tuesday, he asked me to
bring the parts I had removed from
the engine so he would have
everything in one place. I looked
around but could not find this black
plastic bag and then remembered it
got pitched in the garbage. So, I am
now up the famous creek and am
asking this group what I can do?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Â </span></p>
<ol type="1" start="1">
<li
class="m_844539055149806779m-5840361332195764497msolistparagraph"><span
style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I am told the engine
is finished because the Main
Bearing caps are not available and
even if you could find them, they
would need to be line bored on the
engine.</span></li>
<li
class="m_844539055149806779m-5840361332195764497msolistparagraph"><span
style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I am told that
finding an engine block for a 3000
with original main bearing caps is
almost impossible.</span></li>
<li
class="m_844539055149806779m-5840361332195764497msolistparagraph"><span
style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Finding an engine to
be rebuild might be possible.</span></li>
</ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Â </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">My engine was
rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago
everything new, so I would like to
find a way of fixing the existing
engine, if possible.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Â </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Please give me your
advice.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Â </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Best regards,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Â </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Bob Begani</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">67 Austin-Healey
BJ8</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Â </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Â </p>
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