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From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2023 23:30:55 +0200
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Because many owners of classic cars regard their cars as an investment 
(more or less) they tend to barely drive the car. Such a pity. I two 
months ago I drove my Jensen-Healey to an event around the Loire in 
France, organised by the British JOC. Participants came from Italy, 
Monaco, France, UK,  Germany, Netherlands. We did around 2000km of 
driving, mainly secondary roads but I also ended up on the Boulevard 
Périférique around Paris in peak hour and at 35C. Two hours in very 
slow/blocked and dense traffic with motor bikes flying around left and 
right in between the lanes at 80km/h. Still I loved the trip. These cars 
are made for driving and enjoying yourself, ok slightly masochistic 
perhaps, but still. They need some mods to do so safely and reliably. 
Much better than have them 100% original but not fit for modern traffic 
and sitting in the garage.

If we do not drive them our (grand)children would not either and are not 
getting used to keep these cars on the road. They would not learn the 
skills to repair and maintain them. They loose interest.

Mazda MX-5, the best British sports car ever, however a bit boring 
because nothing goes wrong with them and modern engine management means 
that you cannot do yourself an awful lot when things do go wrong.

Kees Oudesluijs


Op 4-9-2023 om 09:11 schreef josef-eckert--- via Healeys:
>
> My personal view is, cars of the 50/60s are becomming more and more 
> collectors cars and no more drivers cars. Pricewise its getting 
> important to have the car in unmodified order, original spec, original 
> colour, etc. In todays traffic its not nice to drive an Austin-Healey 
> on motorways or long distances with heavy traffic inbetween. The 
> collectors, I do not say drivers anymore, are in pensioners age. Most 
> younger people have no emotional relation to cars. A car is just a way 
> of commuting, but better to use public transport. I see it with my 
> daughter. She has no relation whatsoever with cars. She drives when 
> she must, but uses alternartives when they are given.
>
> I see it with me. When I go to an Austin-Healey event or weekend, I 
> load the Healey on the trailer and bring it to the event. Its fun to 
> drive it there, but I really don`t like at all to drive my 
> Austin-Healeys over long distances. So I can keep it/them in good 
> original shape. here its really a nightmare to go with a classic car 
> on roads through central Europe from one congestion to the next.
>
> For holidays meanwhile we have a Mazda MX-5, which gives same or even 
> more fun to drive on todays traffic. And it hase all the safety 
> gadgets like airbags, ertc. and the engine is a dream. It revs up from 
> 2000 to 7000 rpm, just pulling.
>
> So my personal view is, original classic cars may keep their value 
> (not sure if I am right), but modified ones will loose a lot. They 
> lost their classic appearance and even cannot cope with today`s 
> traffic. The original parts are gone, and replaced by Chinese tableware.
>
> I think most important is to keep the original look with all the 
> chromeware, right colours for paint and trim and keep the car as they 
> were sold in the 50/60s. Time will tell, if I am right.
>
> Josef Eckert
>
> Germany
>
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>
> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] 100M on BAT
>
> Datum: 2023-09-04T05:51:34+0200
>
> Von: "Perry Small via Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>
>
> An: "HealeyRick" <healeyrik@gmail.com>
>
> Listers
> As someone wrote in a song several decades ago there is a time.
>
> A time to buy and a time sell. A time gather parts and a time to give 
> them away. I time to gift a grandson, with your 53 Chevy truck.
> A time to part with a BN2, that you have cherished for 58 years , a 
> time to wonder what to do, with the yellow modified,
> Time , time, time��
> Perry- who is getting old
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>     On Sep 3, 2023, at 6:08 PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Strange, I made a comment on BaT earlier today stating that it was
>     Bill's car, Registrar of the Worldwide 100M LeMans Registry with
>     nothing further and it was removed from the comments. There's also
>     no other reference in the description of the car referencing it as
>     Bill's.although there are some pictures of him.
>     Rick Neville, aka "HealeyRick"
>
>     On Sun, Sep 3, 2023 at 9:27â?¯AM Bob Haskell via Healeys
>     <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>         Looks like Bill Meade's 100M is on BAT now.
>
>         
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1956-austin-healey-100m-bn2-roadster-25/
>
>         -- 
>         Bob Haskell
>         Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar
>
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    <p>Because many owners of classic cars regard their cars as an
      investment (more or less) they tend to barely drive the car. Such
      a pity. I two months ago I drove my Jensen-Healey to an event
      around the Loire in France, organised by the British JOC.
      Participants came from Italy, Monaco, France, UK,  Germany,
      Netherlands. We did around 2000km of driving, mainly secondary
      roads but I also ended up on the Boulevard Périférique around
      Paris in peak hour and at 35C. Two hours in very slow/blocked and
      dense traffic with motor bikes flying around left and right in
      between the lanes at 80km/h. Still I loved the trip. These cars
      are made for driving and enjoying yourself, ok slightly
      masochistic perhaps, but still. They need some mods to do so
      safely and reliably. Much better than have them 100% original but
      not fit for modern traffic and sitting in the garage. </p>
    <p>If we do not drive them our (grand)children would not either and
      are not getting used to keep these cars on the road. They would
      not learn the skills to repair and maintain them. They loose
      interest.</p>
    <p>Mazda MX-5, the best British sports car ever, however a bit
      boring because nothing goes wrong with them and modern engine
      management means that you cannot do yourself an awful lot when
      things do go wrong.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Kees Oudesluijs</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 4-9-2023 om 09:11 schreef
      josef-eckert--- via Healeys:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:1693811479970.1709253.f9f1265b0dbb6358ca62eb3236e31be4d38f4053@spica.telekom.de">
      <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
      <title></title>
      <p style="margin: 0px;"><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">My
          personal view is, cars of the 50/60s are becomming more and
          more collectors cars and no more drivers cars. Pricewise its
          getting important to have the car in unmodified order,
          original spec, original colour, etc. In todays traffic its not
          nice to drive an Austin-Healey on motorways or long distances
          with heavy traffic inbetween. The collectors, I do not say
          drivers anymore, are in pensioners age. Most younger people
          have no emotional relation to cars. A car is just a way of
          commuting, but better to use public transport. I see it with
          my daughter. She has no relation whatsoever with cars. She
          drives when she must, but uses alternartives when they are
          given.</span></p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;"><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">I
          see it with me. When I go to an Austin-Healey event or
          weekend, I load the Healey on the trailer and bring it to the
          event. Its fun to drive it there, but I really don`t like at
          all to drive my Austin-Healeys over long distances. So I can
          keep it/them in good original shape. here its really a
          nightmare to go with a classic car on roads through central
          Europe from one congestion to the next.</span></p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;"><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">For
          holidays meanwhile we have a Mazda MX-5, which gives same or
          even more fun to drive on todays traffic. And it hase all the
          safety gadgets like airbags, ertc. and the engine is a dream.
          It revs up from 2000 to 7000 rpm, just pulling.</span></p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;"><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">So
          my personal view is, original classic cars may keep their
          value (not sure if I am right), but modified ones will loose a
          lot. They lost their classic appearance and even cannot cope
          with today`s traffic. The original parts are gone, and
          replaced by Chinese tableware. </span></p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;"><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">I
          think most important is to keep the original look with all the
          chromeware, right colours for paint and trim and keep the car
          as they were sold in the 50/60s. Time will tell, if I am
          right. </span></p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;"> </p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;"><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Josef
          Eckert</span></p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;"><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Germany</span></p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;"><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none"> </span></p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;"> </p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;"> </p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;">Betreff: Re: [Healeys] 100M on BAT</p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;">Datum: 2023-09-04T05:51:34+0200</p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;">Von: "Perry Small via Healeys"
        <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a></p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;">An: "HealeyRick"
        <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com";>&lt;healeyrik@gmail.com&gt;</a></p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;"> </p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;"> </p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;"> </p>
      <div
style="position: relative; color: #000000; font: 12px 
Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">Listers 
        <div>As someone wrote in a song several decades ago there is a
          time. </div>
        <div><br>
          <div>A time to buy and a time sell. A time gather parts and a
            time to give them away. I time to gift a grandson, with your
            53 Chevy truck. </div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>A time to part with a BN2, that you have cherished for 58
            years , a time to wonder what to do, with the yellow
            modified, </div>
          <div>Time , time, time��</div>
          <div>Perry- who is getting old</div>
          <div><br>
            <br>
            <div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
            <div dir="ltr"><br>
              <blockquote>On Sep 3, 2023, at 6:08 PM, HealeyRick
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com";>&lt;healeyrik@gmail.com&gt;</a> wrote:<br>
                <br>
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              <div dir="ltr">
                <div dir="ltr">Strange, I made a comment on BaT earlier
                  today stating that it was Bill's car, Registrar of the
                  Worldwide 100M LeMans Registry with nothing further
                  and it was removed from the comments. There's also no
                  other reference in the description of the car
                  referencing it as Bill's.although there are some
                  pictures of him.
                  <div> </div>
                  <div>Rick Neville, aka "HealeyRick"</div>
                </div>
                <br>
                <div class="gmail_quote">
                  <div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Sun, Sep 3, 2023
                    at 9:27â?¯AM Bob Haskell via Healeys &lt;<a
                      href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
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                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #cccccc; padding-left: 
1ex;">Looks
                    like Bill Meade's 100M is on BAT now.<br>
                    <br>
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href="https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1956-austin-healey-100m-bn2-roadster-25/";
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class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1956-austin-healey-100m-bn2-roadster-25/</a><br>
                    <br>
                    -- <br>
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                    Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar<br>
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