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From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
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A smaller bore for the slave cylinder or a bigger bore to the master 
cylinder or both would help, however the pedal pressure will increase. 
Some drag with a new pressure plate is not uncommon and will wear away 
after a few thousand miles.
Kees Oudesluijs

Op 14-8-2023 om 14:48 schreef Michael Oritt:
> My problem is just the opposite:  After having just replaced the 
> clutch and pressure plate in my 100 the clutch does not 
> _disengage_ until almost the extreme of clutch travel:  i.e. when my 
> foot is depressed to the floorboard.  Though my car's clutch was 
> originally mechanical I long ago replaced it with hydraulics after 
> installing a Smitty's Five Speed Toyota transmission conversion.  I 
> have checked the linkage for wear and do not see the usual egging out 
> of holes and the hydraulics seem okay.  Would changing the bore size 
> of either or both cylinders be a fix?
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
> On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 10:35â?¯PM Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net> wrote:
>
>     Assuming that there is no significant wear at the linkages and
>     hydraulic issues, my understanding is that "clutches wear upwards"
>     So, maybe the plate is worn after 58 years. To my mind mileage is
>     less important than traffic and start/stop time driving.
>     Find a hill and note if it slips at the top of pedal movement.
>     rg
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>     On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 5:05â?¯PM Michael Salter
>     <michaelsalter@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>         Thinking more about your clutch issue. Your description of
>         symptoms has me confused.
>         Am I correct in assuming that what you are experiencing is
>         that the clutch starts to release (slip) after depressing the
>         clutch pedal only a small distance this being 1 - 2 inches
>         from its normal (undepressed) position?
>
>         M
>
>         On Sun., Aug. 13, 2023, 9:46 a.m. Don via Healeys,
>         <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
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>             My 65 BJ8 clutch catches after I depress the pedal about 1
>             to 2 inches from the rest position . Iâ??ve replaced the
>             clutch master cylinder and the slave cylinder. And Iâ??ve
>             bled the system . Thereâ??s. No slipping of the clutch . Car
>             has 60,000 on it with Iâ??m sure the original clutch. Is
>             there any way to make it catch more mid way when I depress
>             the pedal?  I know there are no threaded rods on either
>             the pedal box or at the transmission end . Maybe a
>             different length rod coming out of the slave cylinder?
>                    Thanks , Don
>
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    <p>A smaller bore for the slave cylinder or a bigger bore to the
      master cylinder or both would help, however the pedal pressure
      will increase. Some drag with a new pressure plate is not uncommon
      and will wear away after a few thousand miles.<br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 14-8-2023 om 14:48 schreef Michael
      Oritt:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">My problem is
          just the opposite:  After having just replaced the clutch and
          pressure plate in my 100 the clutch does not <u
            style="font-style:italic;font-weight:bold">disengage</u> until
          almost the extreme of clutch travel:  i.e. when my foot is
          depressed to the floorboard.  Though my car's clutch was
          originally mechanical I long ago replaced it with hydraulics
          after installing a Smitty's Five Speed Toyota transmission
          conversion.  I have checked the linkage for wear and do not
          see the usual egging out of holes and the hydraulics seem
          okay.  Would changing the bore size of either or both
          cylinders be a fix?</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">Best--Michael
          Oritt</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at
          10:35â?¯PM Roger Grace &lt;<a href="mailto:roggrace@telus.net";
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class="moz-txt-link-freetext">roggrace@telus.net</a>&gt;
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            <div>Assuming that there is no significant wear at the
              linkages and hydraulic issues, my understanding is that
              "clutches wear upwards"</div>
            <div>So, maybe the plate is worn after 58 years. To my mind
              mileage is less important than traffic and start/stop time
              driving.<br>
            </div>
            <div>Find a hill and note if it slips at the top of pedal
              movement.</div>
            <div>rg<br>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at
              5:05â?¯PM Michael Salter &lt;<a
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                <div dir="auto">Thinking more about your clutch issue.
                  Your description of symptoms has me confused. 
                  <div dir="auto">Am I correct in assuming that what you
                    are experiencing is that the clutch starts to
                    release (slip) after depressing the clutch pedal
                    only a small distance this being 1 - 2 inches from
                    its normal (undepressed) position?</div>
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                  <div dir="auto">M</div>
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                  <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun., Aug. 13,
                    2023, 9:46 a.m. Don via Healeys, &lt;<a
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                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px
                    0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                    rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">My 65 BJ8 clutch
                    catches after I depress the pedal about 1 to 2
                    inches from the rest position . Iâ??ve replaced the
                    clutch master cylinder and the slave cylinder. And
                    Iâ??ve bled the system . Thereâ??s. No slipping of the
                    clutch . Car has 60,000 on it with Iâ??m sure the
                    original clutch. Is there any way to make it catch
                    more mid way when I depress the pedal?  I know there
                    are no threaded rods on either the pedal box or at
                    the transmission end . Maybe a different length rod
                    coming out of the slave cylinder? <br>
                           Thanks , Don <br>
                    <br>
                    Sent from my iPhone<br>
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