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You don't have to disassemble the OD to put in the 8 springs and=0Acam-t=
hey are the last items to add prior to mating the units..=0AHowever, if=
you pulled out the mainshaft from it, and then moved it=0Aaround it's a=
good chance that the thrust washers in the clutch area=0Aare out of ali=
gnment and that geartrain must be realigned before the=0Aunit will go ti=
ght. Don't force anything-best take it apart and check=0Afor issues then=
reassemble.=0A=0A=09-----------------------------------------From: "war=
thodson@aol.com" =0ATo: "Hank Leach"=0ACc: =0ASent: Tuesday June 20 2023=
10:54:02AM=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] Mating the overdrive to the transmi=
ssion=0A=0A Hank, We never disassembled the OD. Gary =0A On Tuesday=
, June 20, 2023 at 11:46:16 AM CDT, Hank Leach wrote: =0A=0A Be sure=
that the 8 (4 of each size) springs are correctly placed or=0Athey will=
be coil bound and resist assembly. See photo. Hank=0A=0A=09------------=
----------------------------- From: "warthodson--- via=0AHealeys"=0A To:=
"Bob Spidell", "Michael Salter"=0A Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net"=0A Sent=
: Tuesday June 20 2023 9:15:12AM=0A Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mating the ov=
erdrive to the transmission=0A=0A Michael, We do have a spare trans outp=
ut shaft & we have watched your=0Avideo & made a wire tool to retract th=
e pump plunger. We have verified=0Athat the plunger is fully retracted &=
the splines are aligned. The=0Aspare shaft goes in about 1/2" (all the=
way in) further than the one=0Athat came out of the car. Gary =0A =
On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 07:12:20 AM CDT, Michael Salter =0Awrote:=
=0A=0A Although one may be difficult to find there is no substitute=
for a=0Aspare gearbox 3rd motion shaft for this job. The spare shaft is=
used=0Ato align all the internals then, using my special tool to hold t=
he=0Apump plunger retracted [1]=0A[2]https://precisionsportscar.com/lay=
cock-de-normanville-overdrive-installation-tool/=0A[3] it is a simple t=
ask to lower the overdrive onto the gearbox. =0A M =0A On Mon., Jun.=
19, 2023, 11:41 p.m. Bob Spidell, wrote:=0A There is a bronze thrust=
washer that has to be perfectly centered to=0Aget that last 3/4" (#148=
in this diagram):=0A=0A [4] [5]https://mossmotors.com/ahy-041-overdrive=
-unit-bn2-thru-bj8 [6]=0A=0A You can wiggle it around with a long screwd=
river, or use a suitable=0A'drift' to center it. Your best bet is to sit=
the O/D on end and lower=0Athe gearbox onto it; gently rotating the gea=
rbox while lowering. First=0Atime I did this I must have got lucky, but=
danged if I can explain=0Athis (see attached photo). Most recently I fo=
ught for a couple days=0Athen threw in the towel and took gearbox and O/=
D to BCS which,=0Afortunately, is only a half-hour away. David and his m=
echanics had a=0Anovel technique I've not heard described anywhere; basi=
cally, he=0Aremoved the pump completely--it's only two screws IIRC--and=
split the=0AO/D into front and rear sections and tipped the gearbox and=
O/D=0Aup--gearbox on bottom--then had two of his mechanics pull the sec=
tions=0Atogether with huge channellock pliers while David rotated the ou=
tput=0Ashaft to 'feel it in' (you had to be there).=0A=0A Good luck. Mak=
e triply sure you have the pump cam oriented correctly,=0Aor you'll get=
more experience with this process than you probably=0Awant.=0A=0A bs=0A=
=0AOn 6/19/2023 6:18 PM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote:=0A I spent t=
he day assisting a friend trying to mate his OD to his=0Atransmission. T=
he car is a '63 BJ7. The overdrive & Trans. were pulled=0Ato replace a f=
ew internal trans parts which was done & we did not run=0Ainto any issue=
s. We can get the OD to within approx. 1/2-3/4" of=0Amating to the trans=
, but cannot close that gap. We have confirmed that=0Athe oil pump rolle=
r has been fully retracted. What are we bumping up=0Aagainst & how do we=
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<html><body>You don't have to disassemble the OD to put in the 8 springs=
and cam-they are the last items to add prior to mating the units.. Howe=
ver, if you pulled out the mainshaft from it, and then moved it around i=
t's a good chance that the thrust washers in the clutch area are out of=
alignment and that geartrain must be realigned before the unit will go=
tight. Don't force anything-best take it apart and check for issues the=
n reassemble.<br><br><div class=3D"reply-new-signature"></div><p>-------=
----------------------------------</p>From: "warthodson@aol.com" <wartho=
dson@aol.com><br>To: "Hank Leach"<br>Cc: <br>Sent: Tuesday June 20 2023=
10:54:02AM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mating the overdrive to the transm=
ission<br><br>=0A<div class=3D"ydpd1b71354yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"fon=
t-family:'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif;font-size:16px;">=0A<div dir=3D"ltr=
">Hank,</div>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">We never disassembled the=0AOD. </=
div>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">Gary</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A</div>=0A<div cla=
ss=3D"ydp872ff071yahoo_quoted">=0A<div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica N=
eue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">=0A<di=
v>On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 11:46:16 AM CDT, Hank Leach=0A<gradea1=
@charter.net> wrote:</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div=
>=0A<div>=0A<div>Be sure that the 8 (4 of each size) springs are correct=
ly=0Aplaced or they will be coil bound and resist assembly. See photo.=
=0AHank<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydp872ff071yi=
v4297400142reply-new-signature"></div>=0A<p>----------------------------=
-------------</p>=0AFrom: "warthodson--- via Healeys"<br clear=3D"none">=
=0ATo: "Bob Spidell", "Michael Salter"<br clear=3D"none">=0ACc: "healeys=
@autox.team.net"<br clear=3D"none">=0ASent: Tuesday June 20 2023 9:15:12=
AM<br clear=3D"none">=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] Mating the overdrive to t=
he=0Atransmission<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div style=3D"fon=
t-family:'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif;font-size:16px;" class=3D"ydp872ff0=
71yiv4297400142ydp497b91c3yahoo-style-wrap">=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">Michael,=
</div>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">We do have a spare trans output shaft & we=
have=0Awatched your video & made a wire tool to retract the pump pl=
unger.=0AWe have verified that the plunger is fully retracted & the=
splines=0Aare aligned. The spare shaft goes in about 1/2" (all the way=
in)=0Afurther than the one that came out of the car. </div>=0A<div=
dir=3D"ltr">Gary</div>=0A<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>=0A</div>=0A<div=
class=3D"ydp872ff071yiv4297400142ydpd0cdbba8yahoo_quoted">=0A<div style=
=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size=
:13px;color:#26282a;">=0A<div class=3D"ydp872ff071yiv4297400142yqt311178=
5145">=0A<div>On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 07:12:20 AM CDT, Michael Salt=
er=0A<michaelsalter@gmail.com> wrote:</div>=0A<div><br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div>=0A<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<d=
iv>Although one may be difficult to find there is no substitute=0Afor a=
spare gearbox 3rd motion shaft for this job.=0A<div>The spare shaft is=
used to align all the internals then, using=0Amy special tool to hold t=
he pump plunger retracted</div>=0A<div><a href=3D"https://precisionsport=
scar.com/laycock-de-normanville-overdrive-installation-tool/"></a><a hre=
f=3D"https://precisionsportscar.com/laycock-de-normanville-overdrive-ins=
tallation-tool/"></a><a href=3D"https://precisionsportscar.com/laycock-d=
e-normanville-overdrive-installation-tool/">https://precisionsportscar.c=
om/laycock-de-normanville-overdrive-installation-tool/</a></div>=0A<div>=
it is a simple task to lower the overdrive onto the=0Agearbox.&nbs=
p;</div>=0A<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>=0A<div>M</div>=0A</div>=0A<br=
clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydp872ff071yiv4297400142ydpd0cdbba8yiv8503=
291482gmail_quote">=0A<div class=3D"ydp872ff071yiv4297400142ydpd0cdbba8y=
iv8503291482yqt3152633389">=0A<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydp872ff071yiv42=
97400142ydpd0cdbba8yiv8503291482gmail_attr">On=0AMon., Jun. 19, 2023, 11=
:41 p.m. Bob Spidell, <<a>bspidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br clea=
r=3D"none"></div>=0A<blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"ydp872ff071yiv4297400142ydpd0c=
dbba8yiv8503291482gmail_quote">=0A<div>There is a bronze thrust washer t=
hat has to be perfectly=0Acentered to get that last 3/4" (#148 in this d=
iagram):<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><a href=3D"https://mossmot=
ors.com/ahy-041-overdrive-unit-bn2-thru-bj8"></a><a href=3D"https://moss=
motors.com/ahy-041-overdrive-unit-bn2-thru-bj8"></a><a href=3D"https://m=
ossmotors.com/ahy-041-overdrive-unit-bn2-thru-bj8">https://mossmotors.co=
m/ahy-041-overdrive-unit-bn2-thru-bj8</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D=
"none">=0AYou can wiggle it around with a long screwdriver, or use a sui=
table=0A'drift' to center it. Your best bet is to sit the O/D on end and=
=0Alower the gearbox onto it; gently rotating the gearbox while=0Aloweri=
ng. First time I did this I must have got lucky, but danged=0Aif I can e=
xplain this (see attached photo). Most recently I fought=0Afor a couple=
days then threw in the towel and took gearbox and O/D=0Ato BCS which, f=
ortunately, is only a half-hour away. David and his=0Amechanics had a no=
vel technique I've not heard described anywhere;=0Abasically, he removed=
the pump completely--it's only two screws=0AIIRC--and split the O/D int=
o front and rear sections and tipped the=0Agearbox and O/D up--gearbox o=
n bottom--then had two of his=0Amechanics pull the sections together wit=
h huge channellock pliers=0Awhile David rotated the output shaft to 'fee=
l it in' (you had to be=0Athere).<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">=
=0AGood luck. Make triply sure you have the pump cam oriented=0Acorrectl=
y, or you'll get more experience with this process than you=0Aprobably w=
ant.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">=0Abs<br clear=3D"none"><br cl=
ear=3D"none"><div>On 6/19/2023 6:18 PM, warthodson--- via Healeys=0Awrot=
e:<br clear=3D"none"></div>=0A<blockquote>=0A<div style=3D"font-family:'=
Comic Sans MS', sans-serif;font-size:16px;">=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">I spent=
the day assisting a friend trying to mate=0Ahis OD to his transmission.=
The car is a '63 BJ7. The overdrive &=0ATrans. were pulled to repla=
ce a few internal trans parts which was=0Adone & we did not run into=
any issues. We can get the OD to within=0Aapprox. 1/2-3/4" of mating to=
the trans, but cannot close that gap.=0AWe have confirmed that the oil=
pump roller has been fully=0Aretracted. What are we bumping up against=
& how do we get past=0Ait?</div>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">Gary Hodson</di=
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