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Re: [Healeys] 100 front brakes

To: Hank Leach via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>, "'warthodson@aol.com'" <warthodson@aol.com>, Hank Leach <gradea1@charter.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 front brakes
From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2023 21:12:54 +0000
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Correction as I notice the cylinders shown appear to be double ended, they =
would probably be used on the rear brakes and the =93inee=94 and =93outee=
=94 ports would be the supply ports for the solid tubes from the three way =
fitting on the axle housing. Both of the other ports would be bleeders.

Bill Lawrence
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From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink@msn.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2023 9:04 PM
To: Hank Leach via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>; 'warthodson@aol.com' <=
warthodson@aol.com>; Hank Leach <gradea1@charter.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 front brakes

The Girling brakes cylinders I have dealt with use a copper washer to seal =
to the supply port. They didn=92t use any type of flare. The =93inee=94 and=
 =93outee=94 ports on the cylinders shown were made to match a bubble flare=
 or a double flare solid line respectively. These are the transfer ports be=
tween the double cylinders on the Girling dual leading shoe braking system =
used on the front of the 100 and 100-6. The transfer pipes currently availa=
ble use double flares on both ends so the bubble flare port may not be comp=
atible. The The ports that are angled are the correct ports for the supply =
hoses (upper) and bleeder screws (lower). The hoses screw into the upper an=
gled port and seal with copper washers. The bleeder screws as noted may use=
 a tapered sealing surface or a flat surface with a round indentation and a=
 small steel ball.

Bill Lawrence
BN1 #554

________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Hank Leach via =
Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2023 6:59 PM
To: 'warthodson@aol.com' <warthodson@aol.com>
Cc: 'healeys@autox.team.net' <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 front brakes

Do you mean "wheel" cylinders and not "slave"...100s have a mechanical clut=
ch. I understand that on all model Healeys the brake hoses have one threade=
d end and one flared end. That flare goes into the metal line nut.

On the early 100 wheel cylinders they used an American AF thread but switch=
ed over to the Girling unified thread on later releases. The bleeder connec=
tion can be either in or out in shape (photo) but if the bleed screw is fla=
t it uses the check ball (supplied in rebuild kits) and fits the recessed s=
hape. The pointed bleeder uses no check ball.  Be sure that you were suppli=
ed the correct threaded hose...most suppliers do not have the early style. =
Use Girling red grease on the threads. Hank


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From: "warthodson--- via Healeys"
To: "healeys@autox.team.net"
Cc:
Sent: Friday February 24 2023 5:15:16PM
Subject: [Healeys] 100 front brakes

I will be assisting a friend to replace the flexible hoses on his 100 front=
 brakes. He has ordered and received a set of hoses, but the ends that thre=
ad into the slave Cyl do not match the shape of the mating surface in the s=
lave. The ends of the hoses are flat & it is my understanding that the cyl.=
 is cone shaped inside. The vender says this is not a problem. I think it i=
s a problem.
What do you say?
Also, if it is an issue, where can we get a set of flex hoses that have the=
 correct ends for this application & are also the correct length (I.E. Not =
too short)?
Gary Hodson


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Correction as I notice the cylinders shown appear to be double ended, they =
would probably be used on the rear brakes and the =93inee=94 and =93outee=
=94 ports would be the supply ports for the solid tubes from the three way =
fitting on the axle housing. Both of the other
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Bill Lawrence</div>
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yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> WILLIAM B LAWRENCE &l=
t;ynotink@msn.com&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, February 25, 2023 9:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hank Leach via Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;; 'warthods=
on@aol.com' &lt;warthodson@aol.com&gt;; Hank Leach &lt;gradea1@charter.net&=
gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 100 front brakes</font>
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<div>The Girling brakes cylinders I have dealt with use a copper washer to =
seal to the supply port. They didn=92t use any type of flare. The =93inee=
=94 and =93outee=94 ports on the cylinders shown were made to match a bubbl=
e flare or a double flare solid line respectively.
 These are the transfer ports between the double cylinders on the Girling d=
ual leading shoe braking system used on the front of the 100 and 100-6. The=
 transfer pipes currently available use double flares on both ends so the b=
ubble flare port may not be compatible.
 The The ports that are angled are the correct ports for the supply hoses (=
upper) and bleeder screws (lower). The hoses screw into the upper angled po=
rt and seal with copper washers. The bleeder screws as noted may use a tape=
red sealing surface or a flat surface
 with a round indentation and a small steel ball.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Bill Lawrence</div>
<div>BN1 #554</div>
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color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;healeys=
-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; on behalf of Hank Leach via Healeys &lt;healeys=
@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, February 25, 2023 6:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'warthodson@aol.com' &lt;warthodson@aol.com&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'healeys@autox.team.net' &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 100 front brakes</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div>Do you mean &quot;wheel&quot; cylinders and not &quot;slave&quot;...10=
0s have a mechanical clutch. I understand that on all model Healeys the bra=
ke hoses have one threaded end and one flared end. That flare goes into the=
 metal line nut.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>On the early 100 wheel cylinders they used an American AF thread but s=
witched over to the Girling unified thread on later releases. The bleeder c=
onnection can be either in or out in shape (photo) but if the bleed screw i=
s flat it uses the check ball (supplied
 in rebuild kits) and fits the recessed shape. The pointed bleeder uses no =
check ball.&nbsp; Be sure that you were supplied the correct threaded hose.=
..most suppliers do not have the early style. Use Girling red grease on the=
 threads. Hank<br>
<br>
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From: &quot;warthodson--- via Healeys&quot; <br>
To: &quot;healeys@autox.team.net&quot;<br>
Cc: <br>
Sent: Friday February 24 2023 5:15:16PM<br>
Subject: [Healeys] 100 front brakes<br>
<br>
<div style=3D"color:#000000; font:12pt 'Comic Sans MS',sans-serif">I will b=
e assisting a friend to replace the flexible hoses on his 100 front brakes.=
 He has ordered and received a set of hoses, but the ends that thread into =
the slave Cyl do not match the shape
 of the mating surface in the slave. The ends of the hoses are flat &amp; i=
t is my understanding that the cyl. is cone shaped inside. The vender says =
this is not a problem. I think it is a problem.
<div>What do you say?&nbsp;</div>
<div>Also, if it is an issue, where can we get a set of flex hoses that hav=
e the correct ends for this application &amp; are also the correct length (=
I.E. Not too short)?</div>
<div>Gary Hodson<br>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
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