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Yep.=C2=A0 Heavy contacts can arc and corrode as well.
On Sunday, May 22, 2022, 10:23:36 AM PDT, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast=
.net> wrote: =20
=20
Just thought of another possibility: I=E2=80=99ve had solenoids going bad =
that exhibited similar symptoms. Try bypassing the solenoid (can be done wi=
th a couple large screwdrivers or jumper cable).
On May 22, 2022, at 9:32 AM, jim via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote=
:
=EF=BB=BF High resistance in heavy current path from battery to starter (li=
kely corrosion) to ground
(battery)-->>--(solenoid)-->>--starter-->>--(ground)measure voltage across =
solenoid (could have high resistance contacts when operated)
Jim
connect voltmeter between battery and solenoid, note voltage (should be zer=
o) try start, note voltage (should still be zero), section out heavy curren=
t path accordingly ...
On Sunday, May 22, 2022, 04:35:44 AM PDT, Patrick & Caroline Quinn via =
Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
=20
Hello
=C2=A0
A problem to consider.
=C2=A0
Went to turn the engine over in the BN3. An early C-Series six-cylinder. Re=
built about five years back, but seen next to no use.
=C2=A0
Solenoid clicks, but no movement from the engine. Must be the battery so ch=
arged it, but no change.=C2=A0 Tried a brand new battery, but still no move=
ment.
=C2=A0
Out comes the starter and connect it straight to the battery. Whirr away on=
the floor. Perhaps the original Lucas starter is breaking down under load?
=C2=A0
It occurs to me to try and turn the engine over by hand. Gearbox tunnels no=
t fitted so easy to wield a large screwdriver to leaver the flywheel, after=
removing the spark plugs. It moves about six teeth of the ring gear, but n=
o more. It moves back the same in the other direction, but no further. Soon=
lose interest in this manoeuvre.=20
=C2=A0
What=E2=80=99s up? Why won=E2=80=99t the engine turn over? Thinking cap on =
and perhaps it=E2=80=99s something at the top of the engine such as valve g=
ear. Perhaps there is a bent valve?
=C2=A0
Any opinions out there?
=C2=A0
Many thanks
=C2=A0
Patrick Quinn
Blue Mountains, Australia
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
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n arc and corrode as well.<br></div><div><br></div>
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On Sunday, May 22, 2022, 10:23:36 AM PDT, Bob Spidell &=
lt;bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
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<div><div id=3D"ydp7f6800bcyiv9773775180"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Just thought of another possibility: I=E2=80=99=
ve had solenoids going bad that exhibited similar symptoms. Try bypassing t=
he solenoid (can be done with a couple large screwdrivers or jumper cable).=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div id=3D"ydp7f6800bcyiv9773775180yqtfd09713" class=
=3D"ydp7f6800bcyiv9773775180yqt5435803136"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite">On May 22, 2022, at 9:32 AM, jim via Healeys <healeys@autox=
.team.net> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></di=
v></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div id=3D"ydp7f6800bcyi=
v9773775180yqtfd66100" class=3D"ydp7f6800bcyiv9773775180yqt5435803136">=EF=
=BB=BF<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-seri=
f;font-size:13px;" class=3D"ydp7f6800bcyiv9773775180ydp65a6404ayahoo-style-=
wrap"><div></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">High resistance in heavy current path from battery=
to starter (likely corrosion) to ground<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">(battery)-->>--(solenoid)-->>--starter-->&=
gt;--(ground)measure voltage across solenoid (could have high resistance co=
ntacts when operated)</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">Jim</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">connect voltmeter between bat=
tery and solenoid, note voltage (should be zero) try start, note voltage (s=
hould still be zero), section out heavy current path accordingly ...<br cle=
ar=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
=20
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64966578" class=3D"ydp7f6800bcyiv9773775180ydp8c107327yahoo_quoted">
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ans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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On Sunday, May 22, 2022, 04:35:44 AM PDT, Patrick &=
Caroline Quinn via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
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<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div><div id=3D"ydp7f6800bcyiv9773775180ydp8c107327yiv37920=
55204"><div><div class=3D"ydp7f6800bcyiv9773775180ydp8c107327yiv3792055204W=
ordSection1"><p class=3D"ydp7f6800bcyiv9773775180ydp8c107327yiv3792055204Ms=
oNormal">Hello</p><p class=3D"ydp7f6800bcyiv9773775180ydp8c107327yiv3792055=
204MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydp7f6800bcyiv9773775180ydp8c107327yiv=
3792055204MsoNormal">A problem to consider.</p><p class=3D"ydp7f6800bcyiv97=
73775180ydp8c107327yiv3792055204MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydp7f6800=
bcyiv9773775180ydp8c107327yiv3792055204MsoNormal">Went to turn the engine o=
ver in the BN3. An early C-Series six-cylinder. Rebuilt about five years ba=
ck, but seen next to no use.</p><p class=3D"ydp7f6800bcyiv9773775180ydp8c10=
7327yiv3792055204MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydp7f6800bcyiv9773775180=
ydp8c107327yiv3792055204MsoNormal">Solenoid clicks, but no movement from th=
e engine. Must be the battery so charged it, but no change. Tried a b=
rand new battery, but still no movement.</p><p class=3D"ydp7f6800bcyiv97737=
75180ydp8c107327yiv3792055204MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydp7f6800bcy=
iv9773775180ydp8c107327yiv3792055204MsoNormal">Out comes the starter and co=
nnect it straight to the battery. Whirr away on the floor. Perhaps the orig=
inal Lucas starter is breaking down under load?</p><p class=3D"ydp7f6800bcy=
iv9773775180ydp8c107327yiv3792055204MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydp7f=
6800bcyiv9773775180ydp8c107327yiv3792055204MsoNormal">It occurs to me to tr=
y and turn the engine over by hand. Gearbox tunnels not fitted so easy to w=
ield a large screwdriver to leaver the flywheel, after removing the spark p=
lugs. It moves about six teeth of the ring gear, but no more. It moves back=
the same in the other direction, but no further. Soon lose interest in thi=
s manoeuvre. </p><p class=3D"ydp7f6800bcyiv9773775180ydp8c107327yiv37920552=
04MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydp7f6800bcyiv9773775180ydp8c107327yiv3=
792055204MsoNormal">What=E2=80=99s up? Why won=E2=80=99t the engine turn ov=
er? Thinking cap on and perhaps it=E2=80=99s something at the top of the en=
gine such as valve gear. Perhaps there is a bent valve?</p><p class=3D"ydp7=
f6800bcyiv9773775180ydp8c107327yiv3792055204MsoNormal"> </p><p class=
=3D"ydp7f6800bcyiv9773775180ydp8c107327yiv3792055204MsoNormal">Any opinions=
out there?</p><p class=3D"ydp7f6800bcyiv9773775180ydp8c107327yiv3792055204=
MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydp7f6800bcyiv9773775180ydp8c107327yiv379=
2055204MsoNormal">Many thanks</p><p class=3D"ydp7f6800bcyiv9773775180ydp8c1=
07327yiv3792055204MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydp7f6800bcyiv977377518=
0ydp8c107327yiv3792055204MsoNormal">Patrick Quinn</p><p class=3D"ydp7f6800b=
cyiv9773775180ydp8c107327yiv3792055204MsoNormal">Blue Mountains, Australia<=
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