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Re: [Healeys] PCV installation BJ8

To: Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net>, "healeys@autox.team.net" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] PCV installation BJ8
From: Michael Salter via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 12:57:33 -0400
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That particular PCV valve was selected because that is it's orientation in
its OEM use and it is spring closed.

M

On Tue., Mar. 22, 2022, 12:51 p.m. Harold Manifold, <manifold@telus.net>
wrote:

> Michael,
>
>
>
> Nice job done on the PCV system. I have been trying different
> configurations as well and agree finding the right PCV valve is important=
.
> Is the Toyota PCV you used gravity to close (i.e. should be mounted
> vertically) or spring to close so it will work in all orientations. Most =
of
> the PCV valves I have come across should be mounted vertically and mine
> would be horizontal.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Harold
>
>
>
> *From: *Michael Salter via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 22, 2022 9:28 AM
> *To: *Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>; healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] PCV installation BJ8
>
>
>
> Well the system that I installed on my BN1 using a Toyota Pathfinder valv=
e
> was somewhat effective but certainly not perfect. Not easy to see in the
> attached pic.
>
> I found that at normal cruise the ccp ranged between +2" and -3".
>
> Lifting off the throttle momentarily would establish the -3" pressure
> which would hold until the engine was taken back to idle. After that the
> pressure would fluctuate as one accelerated through the gears then
> establish at around 0 in at steady speed until the throttle was closed,
> then back to -3".
>
> I'm fairly sure that these figures are a consequence of the type of PCV
> valve used but it is impossible to get specific information about various
> valves.
>
> M
>
>
>
> On Tue., Mar. 22, 2022, 12:00 p.m. Bob Spidell, <bspidell@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> Hmmmmm ... looks like the hard plastic tube you get with oil suction
> pumps. So, what does it reveal?
> bs
>
> On 3/22/2022 8:52 AM, Michael Salter wrote:
>
> It's actually quite easy to test on the highway.
>
> I made this very basic manometer and plugged the end of the tube into the
> dipstick hole.
>
> Drive around with a passenger watching the displacement of the water in
> the tube ...  very revealing.
>
>
>
> M
>
>
>
> On Tue., Mar. 22, 2022, 11:15 a.m. Bob Spidell, <bspidell@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> I started with the BCS kit, so I have the sealing washer on the dipstick,
> and I put a screw in the hole in the oil filler cap (I didn't think solde=
r
> would stick on the oily cap, and I wanted 'reversible' at the time). At
> idle, you can feel a vacuum if you put the palm of your hand over the oil
> filler hole (haven't tried it on the highway).
>
> On 3/21/2022 10:43 PM, i erbs wrote:
>
> Did you do anything else? Just ran the pvc to the manifold? That's it?
> What about the hole in the oil cap? I have a bj8 manifold on my bt7 engin=
e.
> I get a lot of blowby into my rear air filter. Had Rocker arm checked...a=
ll
> good.
>
> Ira Erbs
> 1959 AH 100-6
> 1967 MGB
> Milwaukie, Or
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, 5:31 PM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Here's how my mechanic did it. Best to balance both carbs, but using the
> unused port on the manifold works OK too.  I ran that way for many
> years; the thread is some sort of Brit thread, I drilled and tapped it
> for an American one.
>
> On 3/21/2022 10:51 AM, Michael DiVito via Healeys wrote:
> > Planning to install a PCV on my BJ8 and having trouble finding the righ=
t
> hardware to connect to the manifold. The plug in the manifold where I wil=
l
> connect the PCV is 3/8=E2=80=9D with a fine thread pattern. Does anyone k=
now where
> I might purchase a suitable connector which has the correct 3/8=E2=80=9D =
threaded
> end for the manifold connection and a 1/2=E2=80=9D barbed end for connect=
ion to the
> PCV?  Also if anyone has already done a PCV install advice appreciated.
> >
> > Michael P. DiVito
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">That particular PCV valve was selected because that is it=
&#39;s orientation in its OEM use and it is spring closed.<div dir=3D"auto"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue., Mar. 22, 2022, 12:51 p.m. Haro=
ld Manifold, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net"; target=3D"_blank" re=
l=3D"noreferrer">manifold@telus.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pa=
dding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"#954F72" style=
=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Michael,</p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Nice job done=
 on the PCV system. I have been trying different configurations as well and=
 agree finding the right PCV valve is important. Is the Toyota PCV you used=
 gravity to close (i.e. should be mounted vertically) or spring to close so=
 it will work in all orientations. Most of the PCV valves I have come acros=
s should be mounted vertically and mine would be horizontal.</p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,</p><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Harold<u><=
/u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div style=3D"=
border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"border:none;padding:0in"><b>From: </b><a href=3D=
"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_bl=
ank">Michael Salter via Healeys</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, March 22, 2022=
 9:28 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; rel=3D"noref=
errer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">Bob Spidell</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:heal=
eys@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys=
@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] PCV installation BJ8</=
p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">Well the system that I installed on my BN1 using a Toyota Pathfinde=
r valve was somewhat effective but certainly not perfect. Not easy to see i=
n the attached pic.</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I found that at normal c=
ruise the ccp ranged between +2&quot; and -3&quot;.</p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">Lifting off the throttle momentarily would establish the -3&=
quot; pressure which would hold until the engine was taken back to idle. Af=
ter that the pressure would fluctuate as one accelerated through the gears =
then establish at around 0 in at steady speed until the throttle was closed=
, then back to -3&quot;.</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I&#39;m fairl=
y sure that these figures are a consequence of the type of PCV valve used b=
ut it is impossible to get specific information about various valves.</p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">M</p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u>=
</u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Tue., Mar. 22, 202=
2, 12:00 p.m. Bob Spidell, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; rel=
=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt; w=
rote:</p></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1=
.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hmmmmm ... looks like th=
e hard plastic tube you get with oil suction pumps. So, what does it reveal=
?<br>bs</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 3/22/2022 8:52 AM, Michael Salter=
 wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin=
-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">It&#39;s actually quite easy to =
test on the highway.=C2=A0 </p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I made this very=
 basic manometer and plugged the end of the tube into the dipstick hole.=C2=
=A0</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Drive around with a passenger watc=
hing the displacement of the water in the tube ...=C2=A0 very revealing.</p=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal">M</p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Tue., Mar. 22, 2022, 11:15 a.m. =
Bob Spidell, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer =
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:</p></div>=
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">I started with the BCS kit, so I have t=
he sealing washer on the dipstick, and I put a screw in the hole in the oil=
 filler cap (I didn&#39;t think solder would stick on the oily cap, and I w=
anted &#39;reversible&#39; at the time). At idle, you can feel a vacuum if =
you put the palm of your hand over the oil filler hole (haven&#39;t tried i=
t on the highway).<br><br></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 3/21/2022 10:4=
3 PM, i erbs wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:=
5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bott=
om:12.0pt">Did you do anything else? Just ran the pvc to the manifold? That=
&#39;s it? What about the hole in the oil cap? I have a bj8 manifold on my =
bt7 engine. I get a lot of blowby into my rear air filter. Had Rocker arm c=
hecked...all good.</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ira Erbs<br>1959 AH 100-6=
<br>1967 MGB<br>Milwaukie, Or</p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, 5:3=
1 PM Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; rel=3D"norefer=
rer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:</p></=
div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;paddin=
g:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">Here&#39;s how my mechanic did it. Best to balance both carbs, but usin=
g the <br>unused port on the manifold works OK too.=C2=A0 I ran that way fo=
r many <br>years; the thread is some sort of Brit thread, I drilled and tap=
ped it <br>for an American one.<br><br>On 3/21/2022 10:51 AM, Michael DiVit=
o via Healeys wrote:<br>&gt; Planning to install a PCV on my BJ8 and having=
 trouble finding the right hardware to connect to the manifold. The plug in=
 the manifold where I will connect the PCV is 3/8=E2=80=9D with a fine thre=
ad pattern. Does anyone know where I might purchase a suitable connector wh=
ich has the correct 3/8=E2=80=9D threaded end for the manifold connection a=
nd a 1/2=E2=80=9D barbed end for connection to the PCV?=C2=A0 Also if anyon=
e has already done a PCV install advice appreciated.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Michae=
l P. DiVito</p></blockquote></div></blockquote><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></=
u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0=
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