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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Additives
From: Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 15:39:45 +0200
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The main thing is to change oil regularly, at least every year, and use 
a good quality oil 20W50 oil suitable for classic cars. If you prefer a 
high level of ZDDP get a 10/20W50 for motorcyle engines as they can 
legally have a higher content of ZDDP.

No additives needed.

Kees Oudesluijs



Op 26-4-2020 om 14:59 schreef Robert Begani:
>
> I have always used ordinary conventional engine oil from a well known 
> refiner plus ZDDP additive. In the past 10 years have mainly used 
> Rotella because it still had ZDDP additive.  However, Shell has 
> reduced the amount of ZDDP additive so I increased my amount of 
> additive.  2 years ago my engine was getting tired at 67,000 miles and 
> I had the opportunity to have  the engine rebuilt. After we took it 
> apart it was sent to the local machine shop.  Lamont indicated that 
> the engine was in excellent condition with all parts within 
> specifications including crank, cam, valves, etc. He said someone took 
> very good care to keep the engine running with good oil, and changing 
> it regularly. However, the cylinders were in need of .20 over which is 
> not unusual for the age of the block and the crank was cleaned and 
> polished  It was reassembled with the same major parts and runs very 
> nicely.
>
> I have not believed in buying high priced specialty oils for our 
> engines or gear boxes when good old DINO or Conventional oil is good 
> for them, of course, with an ZDDP additive.
>
> I have used the same ZDDP additive for years  because the distributor 
> I knew always had it in stock.  When he went out of business, I bought 
> his stock.  The directions are simple add 5 oz. to a 4 cylinder engine 
> so I used 7 oz. for our big 6 cylinder engine and at every oil 
> change.   I am using the last bottle of the additive now and will have 
> to switch to another brand additive in the future.
>
> On the other hand, in my original transmission, the conventional oil 
> was recently changed to Red Line MT-90. Will see if there is a 
> difference in 10 or 20 years.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bob Begani
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of 
> *wwycoffbn7--- via Healeys
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 25, 2020 5:48 PM
> *To:* healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Oil Additives
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Tagging on to Michael's comment on ZDDP in oils, what additives do 
> folks tend to use in their oils. Products like Red Line's "Engine oil 
> beak-in additive"  or something from NAPA, etc.?
>
> Having seen worn cams and pitted tappets, there is a desire to keep 
> that sort of wear from happening as best as one can.
>
> Bill
>
>
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    <p>The main thing is to change oil regularly, at least every year,
      and use a good quality oil 20W50 oil suitable for classic cars. If
      you prefer a high level of ZDDP get a 10/20W50 for motorcyle
      engines as they can legally have a higher content of ZDDP.</p>
    <p>No additives needed. <br>
    </p>
    <p>Kees Oudesluijs</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 26-4-2020 om 14:59 schreef Robert
      Begani:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I
            have always used ordinary conventional engine oil from a
            well known refiner plus ZDDP additive. In the past 10 years
            have mainly used Rotella because it still had ZDDP
            additive.  However, Shell has reduced the amount of ZDDP
            additive so I increased my amount of additive.  2 years ago
            my engine was getting tired at 67,000 miles and I had the
            opportunity to have  the engine rebuilt. After we took it
            apart it was sent to the local machine shop.  Lamont
            indicated that the engine was in excellent condition with
            all parts within specifications including crank, cam,
            valves, etc. He said someone took very good care to keep the
            engine running with good oil, and changing it regularly.
            However, the cylinders were in need of .20 over which is not
            unusual for the age of the block and the crank was cleaned
            and polished  It was reassembled with the same major parts
            and runs very nicely.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I
            have not believed in buying high priced specialty oils for
            our engines or gear boxes when good old DINO or Conventional
            oil is good for them, of course, with an ZDDP 
additive.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I
            have used the same ZDDP additive for years  because the
            distributor I knew always had it in stock.  When he went out
            of business, I bought his stock.  The directions are simple
            add 5 oz. to a 4 cylinder engine so I used 7 oz. for our big
            6 cylinder engine and at every oil change.   I am using the
            last bottle of the additive now and will have to switch to
            another brand additive in the future.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">On
            the other hand, in my original transmission, the
            conventional oil was recently changed to Red Line MT-90.
            Will see if there is a difference in 10 or 20 
years.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Bob
            Begani<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Healeys
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
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 <b>On Behalf Of </b>wwycoffbn7---
            via Healeys<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 25, 2020 5:48 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Oil Additives<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Tagging
                  on to Michael's comment on ZDDP in oils, what
                  additives do folks tend to use in their oils. 
                  Products like Red Line's "Engine oil beak-in
                  additive"  or something from NAPA, 
etc.?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Having
                  seen worn cams and pitted tappets, there is a desire
                  to keep that sort of wear from happening as best as
                  one can.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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