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Michael--
You have posted that in the past and it gives me some comfort that this
event caused no damage.
Best--Michael Oritt
On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
wrote:
> In Targa Newfoundland, after grounding on a rock at the beginning of a
> long stage and breaking the drain plug out of the sump, we drove AHX12 for
> 20 miles at race speeds with NO OIL at all in the engine.
> After the event and 3 more days of competition we disassembled the engine
> and could find no evidence of damage...
> That experience convinced me that the few seconds required to achieve oil
> pressure after an oil and filter change is not something to worry about!!!
> Michael S
> BN1 #174
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Curtis Arndt <cnaarndt@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Kees beat me to the punch. I always prim a spin-on oil filter (as full
>> as I can get it without spilling) before I install it. To me this was just
>> one of the basics of an oil change procedure.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Curt
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 1:14 AM, Oudesluys <coudesluijs@chello.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> If at all possible fill up the oil filter or oil filter housing before
>>> fitting it to the engine. OK, a messy job. Letting it idle for a few
>>> minutes should do no harm to the engine at all, but do not rev the engine
>>> or run it on the choke.
>>> Kees Oudesluijs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Op 5-12-2016 om 18:50 schreef Michael Oritt:
>>>
>>> This morning I drained my old engine oil on my 100 and replaced the oil
>>> filter, then refilled the sump to the correct level and restarted the
>>> engine to check for oil pressure.
>>>
>>> After several seconds I became concerned when the oil pressure gauge
>>> needle stayed pegged. I also have a low oil pressure warning light, the
>>> sender for which is mounted to the block at the point where the flex hose
>>> normally attaches and it is staying lit.
>>>
>>> By this time I had run the engine for at least 30 seconds and was
>>> becoming very concered, so I shut it down, removed the valve cover and
>>> disconnected the banjo bolt going to the rocker shaft, then restarted the
>>> engine--no oil is coming out of the bolt.
>>>
>>> Thinking that perhaps the oil pump lost prime I removed the flex hose
>>> from the coiled copper pipe gong to the oil pressure gauge and back-fed
>>> some engine oil, then reattached the hose to the line but on restarting
>>> again nothing has changed.
>>>
>>> Though this has never happened before I have heard of oil pumps not
>>> repriming themselves and/or taking a while to do so after an oil change. I
>>> have already run the engine for at least a minute in the several restarts
>>> and am frankly concerned that serious damage may have already happened.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts or suggestions will be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Best--Michael Oritt
>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Micha=
el--</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">You have posted that in =
the past and it gives me some comfort that this event caused no damage.</di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt =C2=A0</div>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec=
6, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Michael Salter <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailt=
o:michaelsalter@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>>=
;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small">In Targa Newfoundland, after grounding on a rock at the beginning =
of a long stage and breaking the drain plug out of the sump, we drove AHX12=
for 20 miles at race speeds with NO OIL at all in the engine.<br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;fon=
t-size:small">After the event and 3 more days of competition we disassemble=
d the engine and could find no evidence of damage...<br></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:sma=
ll">That experience convinced me that the few seconds required to achieve o=
il pressure after an oil and filter change is not something to worry about!=
!!<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms=
,sans-serif;font-size:small">Michael S<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default=
" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">BN1 #174 <=
br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><s=
pan class=3D"">On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Curtis Arndt <span dir=3D"l=
tr"><<a href=3D"mailto:cnaarndt@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">cnaarndt@gm=
ail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div=
><div class=3D"h5"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>Kees beat me to the punch.=C2=
=A0 I always prim a spin-on oil filter (as full as I can get it without spi=
lling) before I install it. To me this was just one of the basics of an oil=
change procedure.<br><br></div>Cheers,<br><br></div>Curt<br></div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div class=3D"m_8209=
905456964176826h5">On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 1:14 AM, Oudesluys <span dir=3D"l=
tr"><<a href=3D"mailto:coudesluijs@chello.nl"; target=3D"_blank">coudeslu=
ijs@chello.nl</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div><div class=3D"m_8209905456964176826h5">
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<div class=3D"m_8209905456964176826m_-3128429849552983506m_201821245988=
8901222moz-cite-prefix">If at all possible fill up the oil
filter or oil filter housing before fitting it to the engine. OK,
a messy job. Letting it idle for a few minutes should do no harm
to the engine at all, but do not rev the engine or run it on the
choke.<br>
Kees Oudesluijs<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Op 5-12-2016 om 18:50 schreef Michael Oritt:<br>
</div>
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28429849552983506h5">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"gmail_default">This morning I drained my old engine
oil on my 100 and replaced the oil filter, then refilled the
sump to the correct level and restarted the engine to check
for oil pressure.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default">After several seconds I became
concerned when the oil pressure gauge needle stayed pegged.=C2=A0=
I
also have a low oil pressure warning light, the sender for
which is mounted to the block at the point where the flex hose
normally attaches and it is staying lit. =C2=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default">By this time I had run the engine for
at least 30 seconds and was becoming very concered, so I shut
it down, removed the valve cover and disconnected the banjo
bolt going to the rocker shaft, then restarted the engine--no
oil is coming out of the bolt.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default">Thinking that perhaps the oil pump
lost prime I removed the flex hose from the coiled copper pipe
gong to the oil pressure gauge and back-fed some engine oil,
then reattached the hose to the line but on restarting again
nothing has changed.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default">Though this has never happened before
I have heard of oil pumps not repriming themselves and/or
taking a while to do so after an oil change.=C2=A0 I have already
run the engine for at least a minute in the several restarts
and am frankly concerned that serious damage may have already
happened.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default">Any thoughts or suggestions will be
appreciated.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default">Best--Michael Oritt</div>
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