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Re: [Healeys] No oil pressure

To: Curtis Arndt <cnaarndt@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] No oil pressure
From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 12:44:40 -0500
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Curt/Kees--

I always try to fill filters to minimize the amount of air that gets into
the system but in this case with the filter mounting horizontally to the
engine I could not get too much in.  In any case even a full canister would
not have solved the problem as the oil pump was apparently not able to
overcome whatever resistance the filter was providing. and pull liquid up
from the sump.  As soon as I removed the filter the pump was eventually
able to prime itself.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Curtis Arndt <cnaarndt@gmail.com> wrote:

> Kees beat me to the punch.  I always prim a spin-on oil filter (as full as
> I can get it without spilling) before I install it. To me this was just one
> of the basics of an oil change procedure.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Curt
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 1:14 AM, Oudesluys <coudesluijs@chello.nl> wrote:
>
>> If at all possible fill up the oil filter or oil filter housing before
>> fitting it to the engine. OK, a messy job. Letting it idle for a few
>> minutes should do no harm to the engine at all, but do not rev the engine
>> or run it on the choke.
>> Kees Oudesluijs
>>
>>
>>
>> Op 5-12-2016 om 18:50 schreef Michael Oritt:
>>
>> This morning I drained my old engine oil on my 100 and replaced the oil
>> filter, then refilled the sump to the correct level and restarted the
>> engine to check for oil pressure.
>>
>> After several seconds I became concerned when the oil pressure gauge
>> needle stayed pegged.  I also have a low oil pressure warning light, the
>> sender for which is mounted to the block at the point where the flex hose
>> normally attaches and it is staying lit.
>>
>> By this time I had run the engine for at least 30 seconds and was
>> becoming very concered, so I shut it down, removed the valve cover and
>> disconnected the banjo bolt going to the rocker shaft, then restarted the
>> engine--no oil is coming out of the bolt.
>>
>> Thinking that perhaps the oil pump lost prime I removed the flex hose
>> from the coiled copper pipe gong to the oil pressure gauge and back-fed
>> some engine oil, then reattached the hose to the line but on restarting
>> again nothing has changed.
>>
>> Though this has never happened before I have heard of oil pumps not
>> repriming themselves and/or taking a while to do so after an oil change.  I
>> have already run the engine for at least a minute in the several restarts
>> and am frankly concerned that serious damage may have already happened.
>>
>> Any thoughts or suggestions will be appreciated.
>>
>> Best--Michael Oritt
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)=
">Curt/Kees--</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,25=
5)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">I=
 always try to fill filters to minimize the amount of air that gets into th=
e system but in this case with the filter mounting horizontally to the engi=
ne I could not get too much in.=C2=A0 In any case even a full canister woul=
d not have solved the problem as the oil pump was apparently not able to ov=
ercome whatever resistance the filter was providing. and pull liquid up fro=
m the sump.=C2=A0 As soon as I removed the filter the pump was eventually a=
ble to prime itself. =C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"colo=
r:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb=
(51,51,255)">Best--Michael Oritt</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Curtis Arndt <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cnaarndt@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank"=
>cnaarndt@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>Kees beat me to the punch.=C2=A0 I always prim =
a spin-on oil filter (as full as I can get it without spilling) before I in=
stall it. To me this was just one of the basics of an oil change procedure.=
<br><br></div>Cheers,<br><br></div>Curt<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div class=3D"h5">On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 =
at 1:14 AM, Oudesluys <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:coudesluijs@c=
hello.nl" target=3D"_blank">coudesluijs@chello.nl</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>=
</div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"h5">
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    <div class=3D"m_-3486279498818489968m_2018212459888901222moz-cite-prefi=
x">If at all possible fill up the oil
      filter or oil filter housing before fitting it to the engine. OK,
      a messy job. Letting it idle for a few minutes should do no harm
      to the engine at all, but do not rev the engine or run it on the
      choke.<br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Op 5-12-2016 om 18:50 schreef Michael Oritt:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div class=3D"m_-3486279498818489968h5">
     =20
      <div dir=3D"ltr">
        <div class=3D"gmail_default">This morning I drained my old engine
          oil on my 100 and replaced the oil filter, then refilled the
          sump to the correct level and restarted the engine to check
          for oil pressure.</div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default"><br>
        </div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default">After several seconds I became
          concerned when the oil pressure gauge needle stayed pegged.=C2=A0=
 I
          also have a low oil pressure warning light, the sender for
          which is mounted to the block at the point where the flex hose
          normally attaches and it is staying lit. =C2=A0</div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default"><br>
        </div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default">By this time I had run the engine for
          at least 30 seconds and was becoming very concered, so I shut
          it down, removed the valve cover and disconnected the banjo
          bolt going to the rocker shaft, then restarted the engine--no
          oil is coming out of the bolt.</div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default"><br>
        </div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default">Thinking that perhaps the oil pump
          lost prime I removed the flex hose from the coiled copper pipe
          gong to the oil pressure gauge and back-fed some engine oil,
          then reattached the hose to the line but on restarting again
          nothing has changed.</div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default"><br>
        </div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default">Though this has never happened before
          I have heard of oil pumps not repriming themselves and/or
          taking a while to do so after an oil change.=C2=A0 I have already
          run the engine for at least a minute in the several restarts
          and am frankly concerned that serious damage may have already
          happened.</div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default"><br>
        </div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default">Any thoughts or suggestions will be
          appreciated.</div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default"><br>
        </div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default">Best--Michael Oritt</div>
      </div>
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