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Hi Simon,
Absolutely, that may well work, just as Kee's idea of forcing the bolt
outward wth a blade may work but the problem is that if the section of
stripped thread in the block decdes not to co-operate there is a good
chance that you will loose the thread in the block...
It becomes a question of "feel" and judging whether the coil of thread is
working its way out or the whole thing is going "pear shaped...
Skill level about 3 beers as Earl would say...
M
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Simon Lachlan <simon.lachlan@homecall.co.u=
k
> wrote:
> Sounds typically well thought and workable.
>
> But, and isn=E2=80=99t there always a =E2=80=9Cbut=E2=80=9D.....once you=
=E2=80=99ve drilled the head off
> the bolt and removed the bracket, you=E2=80=99ll have enough bolt stickin=
g out to
> deal with.
>
> Maybe grab it with a mole wrench and, whilst pulling outwards, screw it
> out.
>
> Then back to Michael=E2=80=99s scheme....
>
> Only a thought...probably the only one today.
>
> Simon
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *
> Michael
> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 12:48
> *To:* Oudesluys; healeys@autox.team.net
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Stripped bolt
>
>
>
> Hi Ira,
> From your description it would appear that you have used a "soft" bolt
> upon which the threads have stripped.
> My bet is that there are still good threads on the part of the bolt that
> has penetrated through into the tappet cavity and good threads in the blo=
ck
> albeit filled with the stripped threads from the bolt.
> There is a chance that Kees recommendation would work BUT there is also a
> good chance that as the remaining damaged threads of the bolt are forced
> into the threads in the block casting those threads, in the block, will b=
e
> severely damaged.
> If that happens you then have a nasty Helicoil job ahead of you.
> My success rate with Helicoils in other than blind holes is about 5% =E2=
=98=B9
> This may sound somewhat labor intensive but here is how I would tackle th=
e
> problem.
> First remove the generator and all the other bolts securing the bracket.
> Then center punch the head of the offending bolt and drill through it wit=
h
> progressively larger bits until the head falls off.
> Now the bracket can be removed leaving the stub of the bolt protruding.
> After stuffing the tappet cavity with rags I would then cut the bolt off
> flush with the face of the block using a vibrating Multitool.
> You should then be able to tap the rest of the bolt through into the
> tappet cavity to get caught in the rags.
> Now run a tap through the hole to clean up the threads and, after cleanin=
g
> everything thoroughly, you should be good to go....
> Good luck.
> Michael S
> BN1 #174
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *Oudesluys <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
> *Sent: *=E2=80=8E26/=E2=80=8E10/=E2=80=8E2015 4:41 a.m.
> *To: *healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Stripped bolt
>
> Try getting an old knife blade under the head to create some leverage,
> then turn the head anti-clockwise with the spanner while keeping a modera=
te
> force on the knife blade. This usually suffices to get the bolt started.
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
>
> Op 26-10-2015 om 6:07 schreef I Erbs:
>
> Just spins. Never got tight, just a bit snug then it spins. Yup, does not
> sound good
>
>
>
> Ira Erbs
> Portland, OR
> _______ _______
> (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
> (_________________________)
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote=
:
>
> WRT, the bolt not 'untightening;' are you unable to turn the bolt? Or
> does it turn but not back out?
>
> Doesn't sound good either way; if a thread chaser doesn't fix the problem
> I'm afraid you'll probably need to install a helicoil (or similar) when y=
ou
> do get the bad one out.
>
> Bob
>
> On 10/25/2015 9:18 PM, I Erbs wrote:
>
> Generator plate leaked after I last removed it. Cleaned Right Stuff off,
> used copper gasket sealer. When removing old bolts i realized the one abo=
ve
> the leak spot was not fitting right. retightening bolts and replacing wei=
rd
> one went well. I hand tightened all bolts until firm. One upper bolt woul=
d
> not tighten and now it won't untighten either. Wanky one was a bottom bol=
t.
> Any suggestions for removing bad bolt? and clean up the threads ? Shit I'=
d
> just like to drive the bugger.
>
> Mr. Ira Erbs
>
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi Simon,<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_de=
fault" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Absol=
utely, that may well work, just as Kee's idea of forcing the bolt outwa=
rd wth a blade may work but the problem is that if the section of stripped =
thread in the block decdes not to co-operate there is a good chance that yo=
u will loose the thread in the block... <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">It becom=
es a question of "feel" and judging whether the coil of thread is=
working its way out or the whole thing is going "pear shaped...<br></=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-se=
rif;font-size:small">Skill level about 3 beers as Earl would say...<br></di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-seri=
f;font-size:small">M<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Simon Lachlan <span dir=3D"lt=
r"><<a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk"; target=3D"_blank">si=
mon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex"><div bgcolor=3D"white" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" lang=3D"EN-GB=
"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Sounds typically w=
ell thought and workable.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-se=
rif";color:#1f497d">But, and isn=E2=80=99t there always a =E2=80=9Cbut=
=E2=80=9D.....once you=E2=80=99ve drilled the head off the bolt and removed=
the bracket, you=E2=80=99ll have enough bolt sticking out to deal with.<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0p=
t;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">May=
be grab it with a mole wrench and, whilst pulling outwards, screw it out.<u=
></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0=
pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Th=
en back to Michael=E2=80=99s scheme....<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri"=
,"sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Only a thought...probably the only o=
ne today.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:=
#1f497d">Simon<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"=
;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif=
";color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"bor=
der:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma&=
quot;,"sans-serif";color:windowtext" lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","san=
s-serif";color:windowtext" lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"=
mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@au=
tox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, Octob=
er 26, 2015 12:48<br><b>To:</b> Oudesluys; <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.=
team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a></span></p><div><div =
class=3D"h5"><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Stripped bolt<u></u><u></u><=
/div></div><p></p></div></div><div><div class=3D"h5"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Hi I=
ra,<br>From your description it would appear that you have used a "sof=
t" bolt upon which the threads have stripped.<br>My bet is that there =
are still good threads on the part of the bolt that has penetrated through =
into the tappet cavity and good threads in the block albeit filled with the=
stripped threads from the bolt.<br>There is a chance that Kees recommendat=
ion would work BUT there is also a good chance that as the remaining damage=
d threads of the bolt are forced into the threads in the block casting thos=
e threads, in the block, will be severely damaged. <br>If that happens you =
then have a nasty Helicoil job ahead of you.<br>My success rate with Helico=
ils in other than blind holes is about 5% </span><span style=3D"font-size:1=
1.0pt;font-family:"MS Mincho"">=E2=98=B9</span><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <br>=
This may sound somewhat labor intensive but here is how I would tackle the =
problem.<br>First remove the generator and all the other bolts securing the=
bracket.<br>Then center punch the head of the offending bolt and drill thr=
ough it with progressively larger bits until the head falls off.<br>Now the=
bracket can be removed leaving the stub of the bolt protruding.<br>After s=
tuffing the tappet cavity with rags I would then cut the bolt off flush wit=
h the face of the block using a vibrating Multitool.<br>You should then be =
able to tap the rest of the bolt through into the tappet cavity to get caug=
ht in the rags.<br>Now run a tap through the hole to clean up the threads a=
nd, after cleaning everything thoroughly, you should be good to go....<br>G=
ood luck.<br>Michael S<br>BN1 #174<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div=
><div class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:center" align=3D"center"><hr =
align=3D"center" size=3D"2" width=3D"100%"></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" sty=
le=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
"Calibri","sans-serif"">From: </span></b><span style=3D=
"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><=
a href=3D"mailto:coudesluijs@chello.nl"; target=3D"_blank">Oudesluys</a></sp=
an><br><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",&=
quot;sans-serif"">Sent: </span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fon=
t-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">=E2=80=8E26/=E2=80=8E1=
0/=E2=80=8E2015 4:41 a.m.</span><br><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font=
-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">To: </span></b><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif&qu=
ot;"><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@au=
tox.team.net</a></span><br><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri","sans-serif"">Subject: </span></b><span style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"=
">Re: [Healeys] Stripped bolt</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">Try getting an old knife blade under the head to create some=
leverage, then turn the head anti-clockwise with the spanner while keeping=
a moderate force on the knife blade. This usually suffices to get the bolt=
started.<br>Kees Oudesluijs<br><br><br>Op 26-10-2015 om 6:07 schreef I Erb=
s:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bott=
om:5.0pt"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Just spins. Never got tight, jus=
t a bit snug then it spins. Yup, does not sound good<u></u><u></u></p></div=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><div><=
div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ira Erbs<br>Portland, OR<br>=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 _______=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______<br>=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0=C2=A0 (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0=C2=A0 (_________________________)<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div=
></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Bob Spidell <<a href=
=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>=
> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bo=
ttom:12.0pt">WRT, the bolt not 'untightening;' are you unable to tu=
rn the bolt?=C2=A0 Or does it turn but not back out?<br><br>Doesn't sou=
nd good either way; if a thread chaser doesn't fix the problem I'm =
afraid you'll probably need to install a helicoil (or similar) when you=
do get the bad one out.<br><br><span>Bob</span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">On 10/25/2015 9:18 PM, I Erbs wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></=
div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p>Generator=
plate leaked after I last removed it. Cleaned Right Stuff off, used copper=
gasket sealer. When removing old bolts i realized the one above the leak s=
pot was not fitting right. retightening bolts and replacing weird one went =
well. I hand tightened all bolts until firm. One upper bolt would not tight=
en and now it won't untighten either. Wanky one was a bottom bolt. Any =
suggestions for removing bad bolt? and clean up the threads ? Shit I'd =
just like to drive the bugger. <u></u><u></u></p><p>Mr. Ira Erbs<u></u><u><=
/u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><br><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote><p cla=
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