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All:
Just to muddy the waters, I will comment on my experience with =
polyurethane suspension bushes.
The car is a late BJ8 =E2=80=93 a recently completed full restoration. =
Noltec road bushings (as opposed to competition bushings) were installed =
throughout =E2=80=93 except for the rear radius arms =E2=80=93 the =
original rubber bushings were in good shape and were re-used. The =
Noltec units use a crush tube =E2=80=93 stainless I believe - that gets =
securely clamped by the mounting pins (bolts), so that the bushing =
freely rotates around that tube. I used the lubricant that was supplied =
in the packages of bushings =E2=80=93 seemed to be a normal silicone =
lube to me. I call them a free pivoting bushing as opposed to the =
original torsion type rubber bushing that Michael S has so aptly =
described. There are no creaking, groaning, or cracking sounds from the =
suspension, and the chassis feels completely at ease in all normal =
attitudes at all speeds.
I also installed a Putzke Bilstein tube shock conversion kit. The car =
now has approx. 5K miles on it =E2=80=93 I very much like the ride =
quality. It is a bit stiffer that a stock BJ8, which I have always felt =
could bit a bit sloppy. I think that the increase in stiffness is more =
due to the shocks than the bushings. At cruise on the freeway, the car =
still feels like a BJ8 should =E2=80=93 a relatively plushy ride =
compared to the roadsters. I have definitely concluded =E2=80=93 =
surprisingly =E2=80=93 that I would not go back to the stock set up on =
this car.
Unfortunately, Noltec (in Australia) has been acquired by another Aussie =
suspension outfit called Whiteline Performance Suspension. In perusing =
the website, it isn=E2=80=99t clear to me that big Healey suspension =
bushings are available at this time. Perhaps some of our Aussie listers =
could check on this for us. In my opinion, these are good products.
Earl Kagna
Victoria, B.C.
BJ8, BT7 tri-carb
From: Michael Salter=20
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 8:58 AM
To: Mitch=20
Cc: HEALEY=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Suspension bushings
Hi Mitch,
Since I wrote that article http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D103 I =
have encountered several other people complaining about problems with =
Urethane bushes the worst of which was a case where the forward radius =
arm on the rear suspension of a MkIII actually broke out of the body.
I'll be interested to hear what your experiances are.
Michael S=20
On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Mitch <dayton21@comcast.net> wrote:
Hello list,
I would like to hear the collective wisdom.............on suspension =
bushings
About a year ago I bought all the bushes (SuperPro brand) to rebuild =
my rear suspension........I am getting ready to install them soon...... =
I was also going to order my front suspension too from (SuperPro) BUT, =
I did a little reading last night ....Michael Salter's site,etc,etc. =
Now I am not so sure about poly urethane bushes verses rubber.......The =
SuperPro bushes I bought already were expensive...........but its a fair =
job to replace them....only to have a harse ride, sqeaks ,groans, =
cracked frame etc,etc, =20
When I bought the SuperPro bushes ....someone do not remember who told =
me they were the best....so I bought them
So what is the BEST bushes and who sells them?? will the SuperPro be =
alright for the rear? or not?
Thanks for any help
Mitchell
1966 BJ8
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<DIV>All:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Just to muddy the waters, I will comment on my experience with =
polyurethane=20
suspension bushes.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The car is a late BJ8 =E2=80=93 a recently completed full =
restoration. Noltec=20
road bushings (as opposed to competition bushings) were installed =
throughout =E2=80=93=20
except for the rear radius arms =E2=80=93 the original rubber bushings =
were in good=20
shape and were re-used. The Noltec units use a crush tube =
=E2=80=93 stainless I=20
believe - that gets securely clamped by the mounting pins (bolts), =
so that=20
the bushing freely rotates around that tube. I used the lubricant =
that was=20
supplied in the packages of bushings =E2=80=93 seemed to be a normal =
silicone lube to=20
me. I call them a free pivoting bushing as opposed to the =
original =20
torsion type rubber bushing that Michael S has so aptly described. =
There=20
are no creaking, groaning, or cracking sounds from the suspension, and =
the=20
chassis feels completely at ease in all normal attitudes at all =
speeds.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I also installed a Putzke Bilstein tube shock conversion kit. =
The car=20
now has approx. 5K miles on it =E2=80=93 I very much like the ride =
quality. It is=20
a bit stiffer that a stock BJ8, which I have always felt could bit a bit =
sloppy. I think that the increase in stiffness is more due to the =
shocks=20
than the bushings. At cruise on the freeway, the car still feels =
like a=20
BJ8 should =E2=80=93 a relatively plushy ride compared to the =
roadsters. I have=20
definitely concluded =E2=80=93 surprisingly =E2=80=93 that I would not =
go back to the stock set=20
up on this car.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Unfortunately, Noltec (in Australia) has been acquired by another =
Aussie=20
suspension outfit called Whiteline Performance Suspension. In =
perusing the=20
website, it isn=E2=80=99t clear to me that big Healey suspension =
bushings are available=20
at this time. Perhaps some of our Aussie listers could check on =
this for=20
us. In my opinion, these are good products.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial'; COLOR: =
#141100">Earl=20
Kagna<BR>Victoria, B.C.<BR>BJ8, BT7 tri-carb</DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";>Michael Salter</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 21, 2015 8:58 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Ddayton21@comcast.net=20
href=3D"mailto:dayton21@comcast.net";>Mitch</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3Dhealeys@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>HEALEY</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] Suspension bushings</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=3Dgmail_default=20
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Mitch,<BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sans-serif">Since =
I wrote=20
that article <A=20
href=3D"http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D103";>http://www.netbug.net=
/blogmichael/?p=3D103</A>=20
I have encountered several other people complaining about problems with =
Urethane=20
bushes the worst of which was a case where the forward radius arm on the =
rear=20
suspension of a MkIII actually broke out of the body.<BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sans-serif">I'll =
be=20
interested to hear what your experiances are.<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans =
ms,sans-serif">Michael S=20
<BR></DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_extra>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Mitch <SPAN=20
dir=3Dltr><<A href=3D"mailto:dayton21@comcast.net"=20
target=3D_blank>dayton21@comcast.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>Hello list,<BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I would like to hear the collective wisdom.............on =
suspension=20
bushings</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>About a year ago I bought all the bushes (SuperPro brand) =
to=20
rebuild my rear suspension........I am getting ready to install them=20
soon...... I was also going to order my front suspension too from=20
(SuperPro) BUT, I did a little reading last night =20
....Michael Salter's site,etc,etc. Now I am not so =
sure=20
about poly urethane bushes verses rubber.......The SuperPro =
bushes I=20
bought already were expensive...........but its a fair job to replace=20
them....only to have a harse ride, sqeaks ,groans, cracked frame=20
etc,etc, </DIV>
<DIV>When I bought the SuperPro bushes ....someone do not remember who =
told me=20
they were the best....so I bought them</DIV>
<DIV>So what is the BEST bushes and who sells them?? will =
the=20
SuperPro be alright for the rear? or not?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks for any help</DIV>
<DIV>Mitchell</DIV>
<DIV>1966 BJ8</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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