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Re: [Fot] TR6 Porterfield R-4 Rear Brake Shoes - Carbotech relining

To: DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Porterfield R-4 Rear Brake Shoes - Carbotech relining
From: greg powell via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 18:25:08 -0700
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">In my Morgan I run porterfield R4 with Dats=
un drums in the rear with hawk blue pads on the front discs. &nbsp;15 weeken=
ds of excellent braking so far with no need to change shoes/drums or pads/ro=
tors. &nbsp;<div>Greg P</div><div><br></div><div><br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginn=
ingOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
br>On May 23, 2024, at 5:40=E2=80=AFPM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot &lt;fot@autox.tea=
m.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

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   Excuse me for not commenting specifically about the rear shoes. &nbsp;I a=
lso use standard street shoes from Moss on the back of my TR3 with Datsun al=
uminum drums. &nbsp;No problems at all. &nbsp;Little wear as well. &nbsp;I=E2=
=80=99ve changed the front pads a number of times in comparison during my re=
latively short racing years.
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ica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">
   Dave H.
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    On 05/23/2024 3:55 PM PDT David Gott via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; w=
rote:
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    &nbsp;
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    &nbsp;
   </div> I=E2=80=99m using stock shoes in the back of my TR4; seems to work=
 OK! &nbsp;:-) and yes, I=E2=80=99m typically braking pretty late and hard.=20=

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    I=E2=80=99m curious if anyone gets any real temperature on the rear brak=
es? &nbsp;Mine seem just a little warm coming off track=E2=80=A6. &nbsp;But m=
aybe others have cooked stock compound&nbsp;shoes?
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    Dave G
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      Seems like there are several options for front brake pads, just not ma=
ny for the rear brake shoes.&nbsp; Outside of stock compounds for brake shoe=
s which are not compatible for racing, racing compounds seem limited to Port=
erfield R-4, Carbotech, maybe Racetorations and Cambridge Motorsports' "upra=
ted Mintex" shoes.&nbsp; I understand Revington might make something.&nbsp; P=
roblem is not knowing the temp specs and torque/bite on these latter shoes b=
ased on the website descriptions.
      <br clear=3D"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">Will share anything new that I learn.
      <br clear=3D"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">Thanks
      <br clear=3D"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">Mark
      <br clear=3D"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">-----Original Message-----
      <br clear=3D"none">From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Be=
half Of Barr, Scott via Fot
      <br clear=3D"none">Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 5:27 PM
      <br clear=3D"none">To: Scott Janzen; finishing Touch
      <br clear=3D"none">Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:FOT@autox.team.net"; shape=3D"=
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      <br clear=3D"none">Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Porterfield R-4 Rear Brake S=
hoes - Carbotech relining
      <br clear=3D"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">I loved the Carbotech pads when I was using them on=
 my GT6 for track days.&nbsp; I never had the odd wear problems that have be=
en described.&nbsp; I always used the Hawk Blues on my Spitfire racer and li=
ked those as well, though they didn't have to deal with the same heat as was=
 generated by my GT6 brakes at Blackhawk.&nbsp; The Hawk Blues I use on my S=
pec Racer Ford also work really well and stand up to enough heat to turn the=
 rotors blue.&nbsp; If you're unhappy with the Carbotech pads, the Hawk Blue=
s are a good option, in my opinion.
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      <br clear=3D"none">Scott (B.)
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      <br clear=3D"none">-----Original Message-----
      <br clear=3D"none">From: Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.t=
eam.net" shape=3D"rect">fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Scot=
t Janzen via Fot
      <br clear=3D"none">Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 4:02 PM
      <br clear=3D"none">To: finishing Touch &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fintouch@=
ptd.net" shape=3D"rect">fintouch@ptd.net</a>&gt;
      <br clear=3D"none">Cc: Mark Cook via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@aut=
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      <br clear=3D"none">Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Porterfield R-4 Rear Brake S=
hoes - Carbotech relining
      <br clear=3D"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">I agree. I get the pre-heated ones too. Carbotech s=
tops as well or better, and last longer than any other pads I=EF=BF=BDve tri=
ed, and I=EF=BF=BDve tried quite a few.
      <br clear=3D"none">Sent from my iPhone
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      <br clear=3D"none">&gt; On May 23, 2024, at 4:10=EF=BF=BDPM, finishing=
 Touch via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; shape=3D"rect">fot@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:
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      <br clear=3D"none">&gt; ?I'm on my 3rd set of Carbotech front pads for=
 my TR6 race car and never had any issues....I do spend the extra $ and have=
 them pre-bedded.
      <br clear=3D"none">&gt;=20
      <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Mike Kurtz
      <br clear=3D"none">&gt; #51 TR6
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