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To: "fot@autox. team. net" <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations
From: Steven Belfer via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2022 12:10:33 -0700
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~Steve


> On Jun 28, 2022, at 12:03 PM, Ken Knight via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrot=
e:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> At the four K Cups I have attended, and raced at, you could run your car a=
s eligible in your home club.  When I was K Cup Race Chair in 2019 at Button=
willow  VARA made it clear from the start that if your car was legal in your=
 club (tires and all) you would be allowed to run with us no questions asked=
.  VARA even extended that to our run groups and if you won, you won, no exc=
lusions for tires.  This sounds like a sensible way to race the K Cup and it=
 will not have an impact on who takes home the K Cup this year, tires and fi=
nishing place position have never dictated the winner.
> =20
> Ken
> =20
> Sent from Mail for Windows
> =20
> From: Chris Marx via Fot
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2022 8:59 AM
> To: 'Scott Janzen'; tr4racing@googlemail.com
> Cc: ''Friends of Triumph' Triumph'
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations
> =20
> Scott,
> =20
> I=E2=80=99m not familiar with the US rules of racing.
> On FIA racing they require period correct tires for vintage racing.
> Means threaded tires for cars before 1972 and slicks for cars after that d=
ate.
> There are certainly racing series who have their own rules and allow slick=
s or semis licks for older cars but this are special rules and not the histo=
ric correct FIA rules.
> =20
> Now the problem:
> In K-Cup competing cars of 3 decades 50ties, 60ties, 70ties and they all h=
ad different rules and different tires and brakes and modification regulatio=
ns.
> Means it is unfair by design as an old TR2 can=E2=80=99t hold up with a TR=
6 and a TR6 can=E2=80=99t compete with a prepped IMSA GTO TR8.
> They=E2=80=99re all different animals on different modification levels and=
 the outcome is for a good part predictable.
> =20
> I=E2=80=99m only a guest in your and run what I get told. I don=E2=80=99t b=
other about tires. It just needs 4 wheels to make me happy, nothing else.
> I don=E2=80=99t care about threads or not. I even drive on slicks in rain i=
f necessary.
> =20
> I don=E2=80=99t know if the tires are already ordered but if they=E2=80=99=
re slicks, we cut them to make them fitting the rules.
> If that not helps, we put WD40 on to make them slick.
> =20
> Cheers
> Chris
> =20
> =20
> =20
> Von: Scott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com>=20
> Gesendet: Montag, 27. Juni 2022 23:54
> An: tr4racing@googlemail.com
> Cc: Jason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com>; Brian Dolan <bdolan1776@gmail.com>; 'Fri=
ends of Triumph' Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
> Betreff: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations
> =20
> tire rules are generally per the sponsoring club for the event, as I under=
stand it.   VRG (and PVGP, who I believe uses the VRG tire rules) have never=
 allowed slicks, so they had to make an exception here.  However, it=E2=80=99=
s not enforced, so cars have been seen that go through tech with treaded tir=
es, which may end up being raced with other tires - just sayin!  Tech is bas=
ically a safety process, not a rules enforcement - we are supposed to be sel=
f-policing.  I think you=E2=80=99re seeing a pretty good reaction here becau=
se of the late timing of the announcement, and also because many of the Triu=
mph racers at this event run a lot of races with VRG and other east coast cl=
ubs that require treaded tires.  It really does put the cars on an unequal f=
ooting (no pun intended) and all other things being equal, the car on slicks=
 will be significantly faster.  We all know ways we could make our cars fast=
er - wider wheels, spoilers, air dams, programmable ignition - but that=E2=80=
=99s not vintage.
> I for one am glad to see other interesting Triumphs show up for the event,=
 even if SCCA prepared - just factor the tires into who gets the awards.  I p=
ersonally feel that if you podium by 1-2 seconds a lap on slicks, you=E2=80=99=
ve lost your bragging rights. =20
> Just my 2 cents.
> Scott
> =20
> On Jun 27, 2022, at 5:21 PM, Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote=
:
> =20
> Just a question.
> =20
> When I was part of the K-Cup in 2013 and 2019 there were cars on slicks in=
 the K-Cup race.
> Has the rule been changed that slicks are not allowed anymore?
> =20
> Cheers
> Chris
> =20
> =20
> Von: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von Jason Sukey via Fot
> Gesendet: Montag, 27. Juni 2022 19:49
> An: Brian Dolan <bdolan1776@gmail.com>
> Cc: Friends of Triumph <Fot@autox.team.net>
> Betreff: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations
> =20
> The way I read it, treaded slick racers are still competing for podiums du=
ring the K Cup races, but I could be mis-interpreting it.
> Jason
> =20
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian Dolan via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> w=
rote:
> Seems like a reasonable compromise to allow more people to race, while set=
ting standards for who can podium.=20
> =20
> Am I missing something on that angle?=20
> =20
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> w=
rote:
> Not good news for those of us who consistently run vintage, which typicall=
y requires treaded tires, and are not going to buy a set of R7s for this eve=
nt. =20
> =20
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> w=
rote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF=20
> Its good news that we have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner Cup t=
his year (39 as of today).  But it would be great to be at 40 or more for th=
e 20th Kastner Cup!=20
> =20
> I wanted to share news about tires that may have impacted some of our grou=
p that typically run on slick tires.  PVGP has modified the "no slicks" rule=
 for Triumphs.  You can run grooved slick tires in the Kastner Cup.  You can=
 also run these tires in the regular run groups, but you will not be eligibl=
e for any awards for podium recognition.  For those that don't have tire opt=
ions this will certainly help. =20
> =20
> So if you're on the fence about attending this year for whatever reason, p=
lease consider joining a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race. =20
> =20
> Regular entry fee is $595, plus $50 for the Kastner Cup.  After July 1, th=
e fee goes up to $645, so act now!
> 2022 PVGP Historics at Pitt Race (motorsportreg.com)
> =20
> Thanks.=20
> =20
> Curt Johnston=20
> Kastner Cup Race Committee Chair=20
> curt.johnston@comcast.net
> 707-249-1667=20
> =20
> =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Whatever tires you got, remember, =E2=80=9C=
to finish first, you must first finish=E2=80=9D &nbsp; &nbsp;<div><br></div>=
<div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">~Steve<div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jun 28, 2022, at 12:03 PM, Ken Knight via Fot=
 &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote typ=
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--></style><div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">At the four K C=
ups I have attended, and raced at, you could run your car as eligible in you=
r home club.&nbsp; When I was K Cup Race Chair in 2019 at Buttonwillow &nbsp=
;VARA made it clear from the start that if your car was legal in your club (=
tires and all) you would be allowed to run with us no questions asked.&nbsp;=
 VARA even extended that to our run groups and if you won, you won, no exclu=
sions for tires.&nbsp; This sounds like a sensible way to race the K Cup and=
 it will not have an impact on who takes home the K Cup this year, tires and=
 finishing place position have never dictated the winner.</p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ken</p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from <a href=3D"https=
://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986">Mail</a> for Windows</p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div style=3D"mso-element:para-border-d=
iv;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"border:none;padding:0in"><b>From: </b><a href=3D=
"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>Chris Marx via Fot</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, J=
une 28, 2022 8:59 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:sjanzen@me.com";>'Scott J=
anzen'</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";>tr4racing@googlemail=
.com</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>''Friends of Tr=
iumph' Triumph'</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulation=
s</p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span lang=3D"DE">Scott,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 lang=3D"DE"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m n=
ot familiar with the US rules of racing.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
">On FIA racing they require period correct tires for vintage racing.<o:p></=
o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Means threaded tires for cars before 1972 and=
 slicks for cars after that date.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">There=
 are certainly racing series who have their own rules and allow slicks or se=
mis licks for older cars but this are special rules and not the historic cor=
rect FIA rules.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal">Now the problem:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=
n K-Cup competing cars of 3 decades 50ties, 60ties, 70ties and they all had d=
ifferent rules and different tires and brakes and modification regulations.<=
o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Means it is unfair by design as an old T=
R2 can=E2=80=99t hold up with a TR6 and a TR6 can=E2=80=99t compete with a p=
repped IMSA GTO TR8.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">They=E2=80=99re al=
l different animals on different modification levels and the outcome is for a=
 good part predictable.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m only a guest in your and run what I=
 get told. I don=E2=80=99t bother about tires. It just needs 4 wheels to mak=
e me happy, nothing else.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I don=E2=80=99=
t care about threads or not. I even drive on slicks in rain if necessary.<o:=
p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l">I don=E2=80=99t know if the tires are already ordered but if they=E2=80=99=
re slicks, we cut them to make them fitting the rules.<o:p></o:p></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">If that not helps, we put WD40 on to make them slick.<o:p></=
o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">C=
heers<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;bo=
rder-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><b><span lang=3D"DE">Von:</span></b><span lang=3D"DE"> Scott Janzen &lt;s=
janzen@me.com&gt; <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 27. Juni 2022 23:54<br><b>An:=
</b> tr4racing@googlemail.com<br><b>Cc:</b> Jason Sukey &lt;jsukey@gmail.com=
&gt;; Brian Dolan &lt;bdolan1776@gmail.com&gt;; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph=
 &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Re=
gulations<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp=
;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">tire rules are generally per the sponsorin=
g club for the event, as I understand it. &nbsp; VRG (and PVGP, who I believ=
e uses the VRG tire rules) have never allowed slicks, so they had to make an=
 exception here. &nbsp;However, it=E2=80=99s not enforced, so cars have been=
 seen that go through tech with treaded tires, which may end up being raced w=
ith other tires - just sayin! &nbsp;Tech is basically a safety process, not a=
 rules enforcement - we are supposed to be self-policing. &nbsp;I think you=E2=
=80=99re seeing a pretty good reaction here because of the late timing of th=
e announcement, and also because many of the Triumph racers at this event ru=
n a lot of races with VRG and other east coast clubs that require treaded ti=
res. &nbsp;It really does put the cars on an unequal footing (no pun intende=
d) and all other things being equal, the car on slicks will be significantly=
 faster. &nbsp;We all know ways we could make our cars faster - wider wheels=
, spoilers, air dams, programmable ignition - but that=E2=80=99s not vintage=
.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I for one am glad to see other i=
nteresting Triumphs show up for the event, even if SCCA prepared - just fact=
or the tires into who gets the awards. &nbsp;I personally feel that if you p=
odium by 1-2 seconds a lap on slicks, you=E2=80=99ve lost your bragging righ=
ts. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Just my 2 cents.<o:p></=
o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Scott<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l">On Jun 27, 2022, at 5:21 PM, Chris Marx via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot=
@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n lang=3D"DE">Just a question.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span lang=3D"DE">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">When I was part of the K-Cup in 2013 and 2019 there were cars on=
 slicks in the K-Cup race.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">H=
as the rule been changed that slicks are not allowed anymore?<o:p></o:p></p>=
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">Cheers<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Chris<o:p=
></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div style=3D"border:none=
;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"DE">Von:</span></b><span class=3D"apple-converte=
d-space"><span lang=3D"DE">&nbsp;</span></span><span lang=3D"DE">Fot &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";>fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;=
<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>Im Auftrag von<span cl=
ass=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Jason Sukey via Fot<br><b>Ges=
endet:</b><span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Montag, 27. Jun=
i 2022 19:49<br><b>An:</b><span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span=
>Brian Dolan &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bdolan1776@gmail.com";>bdolan1776@gmail.co=
m</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b><span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Fri=
ends of Triumph &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Fot@autox.team.net";>Fot@autox.team.net=
</a>&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b><span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</spa=
n>Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">The way I read it, treaded slick racers are still competing for po=
diums during the K Cup races, but I could be mis-interpreting it.<o:p></o:p>=
</p></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jason<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><=
/div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian Dolan via Fot &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:=
p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #=
CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;ma=
rgin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D=
"margin-left:4.8pt">Seems like a reasonable compromise to allow more people t=
o race, while setting standards for who can podium.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></di=
v></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:4.8pt">&nbsp;<=
o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-l=
eft:4.8pt">Am I missing something on that angle?&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><=
/div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:4.8pt">&nbsp;<o:p=
></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:=
4.8pt">On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:fot@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote=
:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:sol=
id #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0p=
t;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" sty=
le=3D"margin-left:9.6pt">Not good news for those of us who consistently run v=
intage, which typically requires treaded tires, and are not going to buy a s=
et of R7s for this event. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;m=
argin-left:9.6pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" styl=
e=3D"margin-left:9.6pt">Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;=
margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:9.6pt"><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockq=
uote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" s=
tyle=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-=
left:45.6pt">On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; w=
rote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt=
;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:=
45.6pt">=EF=BB=BF<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o=
:p></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:45.6pt"><=
span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;=
color:#333333">Its good news that we have nearly 40 cars registered for the K=
astner Cup this year (39 as of today).&nbsp; But it would be great to be at 4=
0 or more for the 20th Kastner Cup!<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nb=
sp;</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
 style=3D"margin-left:45.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></=
div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:45.6pt"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;col=
or:#333333">I wanted to share news about tires that may have impacted some o=
f our group that typically run on slick tires.&nbsp; PVGP has modified the "=
no slicks" rule for Triumphs.&nbsp; You can run<span class=3D"apple-converte=
d-space">&nbsp;</span><strong><u><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&=
quot;,sans-serif">grooved slick tires</span></u></strong><span class=3D"appl=
e-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>in the Kastner Cup.&nbsp; You can also run t=
hese tires in the regular run groups, but you will not be eligible for any a=
wards for podium recognition.&nbsp; For those that don't have tire options t=
his will certainly help.&nbsp;<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</=
span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" styl=
e=3D"margin-left:45.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;H=
elvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><=
/div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:45.6pt"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#3=
33333">So if you're on the fence about attending this year for whatever reas=
on, please consider joining a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race.&nbsp;<span=
 class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></=
div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:45.6pt"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#33=
3333">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l" style=3D"margin-left:45.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333">Regular entry fee is $595, p=
lus $50 for the Kastner Cup.&nbsp;<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbs=
p;</span><strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif=
">After July 1, the fee goes up to $645, so act now!</span></strong></span><=
o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-l=
eft:45.6pt"><strong><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvet=
ica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333"><a href=3D"https://www.motorsportreg.com=
/events/2022-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-race-pittsburgh-international-compl-vint=
age-771031" target=3D"_blank">2022 PVGP Historics at Pitt Race</a></span></s=
trong><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans=
-serif;color:#333333"><a href=3D"https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2022-p=
vgp-historics-at-pitt-race-pittsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031" ta=
rget=3D"_blank"><span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>(motorspo=
rtreg.com)</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal" style=3D"margin-left:45.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:45.6pt">=
<span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif=
;color:#333333">Thanks.<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></=
span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"ma=
rgin-left:45.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetic=
a&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:45.6pt"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333">=
Curt Johnston<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><o:p>=
</o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:=
45.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sa=
ns-serif;color:#333333">Kastner Cup Race Committee Chair<span class=3D"apple=
-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:45.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333"><a href=3D=
"mailto:curt.johnston@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank">curt.johnston@comcast.n=
et</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" sty=
le=3D"margin-left:45.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333">707-249-1667<span class=3D"apple-c=
onverted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:45.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size:12.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333">&nbsp;</span=
><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin=
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ot;,sans-serif;color:#333333">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p cla=
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