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Scott,
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I=E2=80=99m not familiar with the US rules of racing.
On FIA racing they require period correct tires for vintage racing.
Means threaded tires for cars before 1972 and slicks for cars after that =
date.
There are certainly racing series who have their own rules and allow =
slicks or semis licks for older cars but this are special rules and not =
the historic correct FIA rules.
=20
Now the problem:
In K-Cup competing cars of 3 decades 50ties, 60ties, 70ties and they all =
had different rules and different tires and brakes and modification =
regulations.
Means it is unfair by design as an old TR2 can=E2=80=99t hold up with a =
TR6 and a TR6 can=E2=80=99t compete with a prepped IMSA GTO TR8.
They=E2=80=99re all different animals on different modification levels =
and the outcome is for a good part predictable.
=20
I=E2=80=99m only a guest in your and run what I get told. I =
don=E2=80=99t bother about tires. It just needs 4 wheels to make me =
happy, nothing else.
I don=E2=80=99t care about threads or not. I even drive on slicks in =
rain if necessary.
=20
I don=E2=80=99t know if the tires are already ordered but if =
they=E2=80=99re slicks, we cut them to make them fitting the rules.
If that not helps, we put WD40 on to make them slick.
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Cheers
Chris
=20
=20
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Von: Scott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com>=20
Gesendet: Montag, 27. Juni 2022 23:54
An: tr4racing@googlemail.com
Cc: Jason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com>; Brian Dolan <bdolan1776@gmail.com>; =
'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations
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tire rules are generally per the sponsoring club for the event, as I =
understand it. VRG (and PVGP, who I believe uses the VRG tire rules) =
have never allowed slicks, so they had to make an exception here. =
However, it=E2=80=99s not enforced, so cars have been seen that go =
through tech with treaded tires, which may end up being raced with other =
tires - just sayin! Tech is basically a safety process, not a rules =
enforcement - we are supposed to be self-policing. I think =
you=E2=80=99re seeing a pretty good reaction here because of the late =
timing of the announcement, and also because many of the Triumph racers =
at this event run a lot of races with VRG and other east coast clubs =
that require treaded tires. It really does put the cars on an unequal =
footing (no pun intended) and all other things being equal, the car on =
slicks will be significantly faster. We all know ways we could make our =
cars faster - wider wheels, spoilers, air dams, programmable ignition - =
but that=E2=80=99s not vintage.
I for one am glad to see other interesting Triumphs show up for the =
event, even if SCCA prepared - just factor the tires into who gets the =
awards. I personally feel that if you podium by 1-2 seconds a lap on =
slicks, you=E2=80=99ve lost your bragging rights. =20
Just my 2 cents.
Scott
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On Jun 27, 2022, at 5:21 PM, Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =
=20
Just a question.
=20
When I was part of the K-Cup in 2013 and 2019 there were cars on slicks =
in the K-Cup race.
Has the rule been changed that slicks are not allowed anymore?
=20
Cheers
Chris
=20
=20
> Im Auftrag von Jason Sukey via Fot
Gesendet: Montag, 27. Juni 2022 19:49
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations
=20
The way I read it, treaded slick racers are still competing for podiums =
during the K Cup races, but I could be mis-interpreting it.
Jason
=20
On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian Dolan via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =
Seems like a reasonable compromise to allow more people to race, while =
setting standards for who can podium.=20
=20
Am I missing something on that angle?=20
=20
On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =
Not good news for those of us who consistently run vintage, which =
typically requires treaded tires, and are not going to buy a set of R7s =
for this event. =20
=20
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =
=EF=BB=BF=20
Its good news that we have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner Cup =
this year (39 as of today). But it would be great to be at 40 or more =
for the 20th Kastner Cup!=20
=20
I wanted to share news about tires that may have impacted some of our =
group that typically run on slick tires. PVGP has modified the "no =
slicks" rule for Triumphs. You can run grooved slick tires in the =
Kastner Cup. You can also run these tires in the regular run groups, =
but you will not be eligible for any awards for podium recognition. For =
those that don't have tire options this will certainly help. =20
=20
So if you're on the fence about attending this year for whatever reason, =
please consider joining a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race. =20
=20
Regular entry fee is $595, plus $50 for the Kastner Cup. After July 1, =
the fee goes up to $645, so act now!
2022 PVGP Historics at Pitt Race =
<https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2022-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-race-pi=
ttsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031> =
<https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2022-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-race-pi=
ttsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031> (motorsportreg.com)
=20
Thanks.=20
=20
Curt Johnston=20
Kastner Cup Race Committee Chair=20
707-249-1667=20
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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DDE>Scott,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DDE><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99m =
not familiar with the US rules of racing.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On FIA racing they require period correct tires for =
vintage racing.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Means threaded tires =
for cars before 1972 and slicks for cars after that =
date.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>There are certainly racing =
series who have their own rules and allow slicks or semis licks for =
older cars but this are special rules and not the historic correct FIA =
rules.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Now the problem:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>In =
K-Cup competing cars of 3 decades 50ties, 60ties, 70ties and they all =
had different rules and different tires and brakes and modification =
regulations.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Means it is unfair by =
design as an old TR2 can=E2=80=99t hold up with a TR6 and a TR6 =
can=E2=80=99t compete with a prepped IMSA GTO TR8.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>They=E2=80=99re all different animals on different =
modification levels and the outcome is for a good part =
predictable.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99m only a guest in your and run what I get =
told. I don=E2=80=99t bother about tires. It just needs 4 wheels to make =
me happy, nothing else.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
don=E2=80=99t care about threads or not. I even drive on slicks in rain =
if necessary.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I don=E2=80=99t know if the tires are already ordered =
but if they=E2=80=99re slicks, we cut them to make them fitting the =
rules.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>If that not helps, we put WD40 =
on to make them slick.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span =
lang=3DDE> Scott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com> <br><b>Gesendet:</b> =
Montag, 27. Juni 2022 23:54<br><b>An:</b> =
tr4racing@googlemail.com<br><b>Cc:</b> Jason Sukey =
<jsukey@gmail.com>; Brian Dolan <bdolan1776@gmail.com>; =
'Friends of Triumph' Triumph =
<fot@autox.team.net><br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire =
Regulations<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>tire rules =
are generally per the sponsoring club for the event, as I understand it. =
VRG (and PVGP, who I believe uses the VRG tire rules) have never =
allowed slicks, so they had to make an exception here. However, =
it=E2=80=99s not enforced, so cars have been seen that go through tech =
with treaded tires, which may end up being raced with other tires - just =
sayin! Tech is basically a safety process, not a rules enforcement =
- we are supposed to be self-policing. I think you=E2=80=99re =
seeing a pretty good reaction here because of the late timing of the =
announcement, and also because many of the Triumph racers at this event =
run a lot of races with VRG and other east coast clubs that require =
treaded tires. It really does put the cars on an unequal footing =
(no pun intended) and all other things being equal, the car on slicks =
will be significantly faster. We all know ways we could make our =
cars faster - wider wheels, spoilers, air dams, programmable ignition - =
but that=E2=80=99s not vintage.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I for one am glad to see other interesting Triumphs =
show up for the event, even if SCCA prepared - just factor the tires =
into who gets the awards. I personally feel that if you podium by =
1-2 seconds a lap on slicks, you=E2=80=99ve lost your bragging rights. =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Just my 2 =
cents.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Scott<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Jun 27, 2022, at 5:21 PM, Chris Marx via Fot <<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DDE>Just a =
question.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DDE> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>When I was part of the K-Cup in 2013 and 2019 there =
were cars on slicks in the K-Cup race.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Has the rule been changed that slicks are not allowed =
anymore?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space><span =
lang=3DDE> </span></span><span lang=3DDE>Fot <<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";>fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>=
><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><b>Im Auftrag =
von<span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span></b>Jason Sukey via =
Fot<br><b>Gesendet:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Montag, 27. Juni 2022 =
19:49<br><b>An:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Brian Dolan <<a =
href=3D"mailto:bdolan1776@gmail.com";>bdolan1776@gmail.com</a>><br><b>C=
c:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Friends of =
Triumph <<a =
href=3D"mailto:Fot@autox.team.net";>Fot@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Betre=
ff:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Fot] =
Kastner Cup Tire Regulations</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The way I read it, treaded slick racers are still =
competing for podiums during the K Cup races, but I could be =
mis-interpreting it.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Jason<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian Dolan via Fot =
<<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Seems like a reasonable compromise =
to allow more people to race, while setting standards for who can =
podium. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Am I missing something on that =
angle? <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot =
<<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Not good news for those of us who =
consistently run vintage, which typically requires treaded tires, and =
are not going to buy a set of R7s for this event. =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my =
iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt =
Johnston via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=BF<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Its good news that we have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner =
Cup this year (39 as of today). But it would be great to be at 40 =
or more for the 20th Kastner Cup!<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></=
div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>I wanted to share news about tires that may have impacted some of our =
group that typically run on slick tires. PVGP has modified the =
"no slicks" rule for Triumphs. You can run<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><strong><u><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>grooved slick =
tires</span></u></strong><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>in the Kastner Cup. You =
can also run these tires in the regular run groups, but you will not be =
eligible for any awards for podium recognition. For those that =
don't have tire options this will certainly help. <span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></=
div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>So if you're on the fence about attending this year for whatever =
reason, please consider joining a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt =
Race. <span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></=
div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Regular entry fee is $595, plus $50 for the Kastner Cup. <span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>After July 1, the fee goes =
up to $645, so act =
now!</span></strong></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><strong><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'><a =
href=3D"https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2022-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-=
race-pittsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031" =
target=3D"_blank">2022 PVGP Historics at Pitt =
Race</a></span></strong><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'><a =
href=3D"https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2022-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-=
race-pittsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031" =
target=3D"_blank"><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>(motorsportreg.com)</a></span>=
<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Thanks.<span =
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