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To: rek46 <rek46@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Float needle valves
From: Phil Gott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 14:22:47 -0400
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Yup.
Had that problem. Floats must =E2=80=9Cface=E2=80=9D fore and aft, meaning t=
he pivot points across the car. WIth pivots at an angle to the car we first t=
ried to overcome the apparent starvation in turns by increasing the fuel pre=
ssure, which just made things worse. Fuel pressure at 2 1/2 psi and fore/aft=
 floats works well.
Thanks.,
Phil=20

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> On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:41 PM, rek46 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old style f=
loats....you need positive open and close.....heres a tip..check your float d=
irection for best perf....meaning , are you having brake to accel. probs on h=
eavy brake corners?  You prob have each float facing toward center...not bes=
t....Solved by making both floats face same direction(frt. or back)....rick
> =20
> In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot@autox.=
team.net writes:
> =20
> Thanks, Erik and Joe;
> Good to know.
> I=E2=80=99ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won=E2=80=99=
t use those again!
> Phil
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
> On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen <kekjacobsen@yahoo.com> wrote:=

>=20
> =20
> Phil,
> I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't=
 had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race c=
ar, I still haven't had a problem.
> =20
> Jake
> =20
> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot <fot@aut=
ox.team.net> wrote:
> =20
> =20
> =20
> Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded b=
all on the end of the float needle.  I suspected some flow issues and others=
 had said that they had issues.  JoeB
> =20
> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot <fot@auto=
x.team.net> wrote:
> =20
> =20
> Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring load=
ed contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better,=
 worse, or require different set up?
> Phil Gott
> =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Yup.<div>Had that problem. Floats must =E2=80=
=9Cface=E2=80=9D fore and aft, meaning the pivot points across the car. WIth=
 pivots at an angle to the car we first tried to overcome the apparent starv=
ation in turns by increasing the fuel pressure, which just made things worse=
. Fuel pressure at 2 1/2 psi and fore/aft floats works well.</div><div>Thank=
s.,</div><div>Phil&nbsp;<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:41 PM, r=
ek46 via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div>
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ont-size: 10pt; color: #000000;">
<div><span style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10=
pt; color: #000000;">NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use G=
OOD/New old style floats....you need positive open and close.....heres a tip=
..check your float direction for best perf....meaning , are you having brake=
 to accel. probs on heavy brake corners?&nbsp; You prob have each float faci=
ng toward center...not best....Solved by making both floats face same direct=
ion(frt. or back)....rick</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10=
pt; color: #000000;">&nbsp;</span></div>
</div>
In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot@autox.te=
am.net writes:
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<div>Thanks, Erik and Joe;
<div>Good to know.</div>
<div>I=E2=80=99ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won=E2=80=
=99t use those again!</div>
<div>Phil<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
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<blockquote>On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen &lt;kekjacobsen@yaho=
o.com&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote>
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<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Phil,</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race c=
ars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 yea=
rs in the race car, I still haven't had a problem.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Jake</div>
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ont-size: 13px; color: #26282a;">
<div>On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot &lt;f=
ot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the s=
pring loaded ball on the end of the float needle.&nbsp; I suspected some flo=
w issues and others had said that they had issues.&nbsp; JoeB</div>
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<div>On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot &lt;fo=
t@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have t=
he spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a sol=
id one better, worse, or require different set up?</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Phil Gott</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
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