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To: mleccese1@verizon.net, yellow04 <yellow04@tr4racer.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Best Head Gasket
From: Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 15:00:16 +0000 (UTC)
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 The liner protrusion spec I mentioned in my previous email (.003" - .005")=
 is right from the TR-4 Factory Workshop Manual.=C2=A0 Obviously, this impl=
ies use of a stock factory head gasket.=C2=A0 I used this same spec with th=
e factory steel shim gaskets for 24 years in my race engines and never had =
a failure.=C2=A0 If manufacturers of other head gaskets recommend a differe=
nt protrusion spec, obviously go with their recommendation.
Jack

    On Saturday, August 1, 2020, 10:52:14 AM EDT, yellow04 via Fot <fot@aut=
ox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
 Lots of information being tossed around here, I feel this comment is=20
missing...

The good folks that have chimed in here have solved their issue of=20
getting the wet liner TR motor head gasket to seal. There are many=20
solutions that work, but the important thing to realize is there are=20
variables to each solution. It's like each head gasket has it's own=20
recipe for success. Choose a head gasket and follow the recipe to the=20
letter and your head should seal just fine. Some recipe's are easy,=20
others require much more diligence. The crux of the issue is setting the=20
liner protrusion to the right height for the gasket being used.

Composite head gaskets will hide a multitude of sins when it comes to=20
liner protrusion, but may be hard to find a quality one that matches=20
your head, plus in theory they may not last as long and may not be as=20
robust.

Solid head gaskets require very tight tolerances on liner protrusion,=20
are more sensitive to techniques with sealant, and in my experience can=20
be a real pain to get the head off! (Thanks Bill!!!) But when used=20
correctly should be more bombproof than composite head gaskets, and you=20
can order the exact thickness you desire to meet compression ratio=20
requirements.

Bottom line to any new guy... Do not fall into the trap of asking 10=20
people what they do, then pick and choose steps from different=20
solutions. If you find someone who builds reliable engines, and copy=20
their solution to the letter, you stand a good chance of copying their=20
results.

Worked for me, just sayin'...

Henry


On 2020-07-31 17:27, mleccese1--- via Fot wrote:
> Phil, Dave,
>=20
> I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green
> TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust.
>=20
> Thank you
> Michael L
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">The liner protrusion spec I =
mentioned in my previous email (.003" - .005") is right from the TR-4 Facto=
ry Workshop Manual.&nbsp; Obviously, this implies use of a stock factory he=
ad gasket.&nbsp; I used this same spec with the factory steel shim gaskets =
for 24 years in my race engines and never had a failure.&nbsp; If manufactu=
rers of other head gaskets recommend a different protrusion spec, obviously=
 go with their recommendation.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Jack<br></div><div><br></d=
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                    On Saturday, August 1, 2020, 10:52:14 AM EDT, yellow04 =
via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">Lots of information being tossed arou=
nd here, I feel this comment is <br clear=3D"none">missing...<br clear=3D"n=
one"><br clear=3D"none">The good folks that have chimed in here have solved=
 their issue of <br clear=3D"none">getting the wet liner TR motor head gask=
et to seal. There are many <br clear=3D"none">solutions that work, but the =
important thing to realize is there are <br clear=3D"none">variables to eac=
h solution. It's like each head gasket has it's own <br clear=3D"none">reci=
pe for success. Choose a head gasket and follow the recipe to the <br clear=
=3D"none">letter and your head should seal just fine. Some recipe's are eas=
y, <br clear=3D"none">others require much more diligence. The crux of the i=
ssue is setting the <br clear=3D"none">liner protrusion to the right height=
 for the gasket being used.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Composite =
head gaskets will hide a multitude of sins when it comes to <br clear=3D"no=
ne">liner protrusion, but may be hard to find a quality one that matches <b=
r clear=3D"none">your head, plus in theory they may not last as long and ma=
y not be as <br clear=3D"none">robust.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"=
>Solid head gaskets require very tight tolerances on liner protrusion, <br =
clear=3D"none">are more sensitive to techniques with sealant, and in my exp=
erience can <br clear=3D"none">be a real pain to get the head off! (Thanks =
Bill!!!) But when used <br clear=3D"none">correctly should be more bombproo=
f than composite head gaskets, and you <br clear=3D"none">can order the exa=
ct thickness you desire to meet compression ratio <br clear=3D"none">requir=
ements.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Bottom line to any new guy... =
Do not fall into the trap of asking 10 <br clear=3D"none">people what they =
do, then pick and choose steps from different <br clear=3D"none">solutions.=
 If you find someone who builds reliable engines, and copy <br clear=3D"non=
e">their solution to the letter, you stand a good chance of copying their <=
br clear=3D"none">results.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Worked for =
me, just sayin'...<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Henry<br clear=3D"n=
one"><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydp6cb144f8yqt3941767706" id=3D"ydp6c=
b144f8yqtfd33741"><br clear=3D"none">On 2020-07-31 17:27, mleccese1--- via =
Fot wrote:<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Phil, Dave,<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br cl=
ear=3D"none">&gt; I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lim=
e Rock (Green<br clear=3D"none">&gt; TR4 #802), can you or someone recommen=
d one that is robust.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Thank =
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