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#715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:whi=
te !important; } I absolutely concur about the sleeve standing proud of the=
block, however, be careful that you don't have too much protrusion, (ask m=
e how I know=F0=9F=A4=94) I believe the spec is 2 to 5 thousandths. I use a=
copper gasket so I'm at about 3. Morty Dunst made my gasket and he can do =
them in various thicknesses.Cheers!Russ Westfall=C2=A0
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On Saturday, August 1, 2020, 4:52 AM, Phil Gott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net=
> wrote:
Michael;It is also critical that the liners protrude above the block by .00=
5 to .007=E2=80=9D to ensure a good seal. This is before any compression of=
the figure 8 gaskets. =C2=A0If the protrusion is less, the top of the bloc=
k should be milled to achieve the proper protrusion.If you have milled the =
head more than about .060 you should consider staking the head around the b=
ores between cylinders two and three per the Kastner book. It is weak in th=
is area.The rest of the advice you=E2=80=99ve received is pretty sound, but=
I have not tried all of it.Depending on how much you=E2=80=99ve milled the=
head and what you have done with the combustion chambers, you may need to =
reshape the fire ring area of your gasket. It must not protrude at all into=
the combustion chamber.Phil
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 31, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrot=
e:
=EF=BB=BF I've read all of the comments, but haven't heard anything about C=
ometic.=C2=A0 I had rebuilt my TR-3 engine a number of years ago, using the=
stock head gasket.=C2=A0 I built the engine as I would have built one of m=
y race engines in the day, except with a milder cam and less compression (1=
0.5:1).=C2=A0 From day 1 it never really ran right.=C2=A0 I began to suspec=
t coolant was getting into the combustion chamber, so I bought one of those=
test kits where you pull some coolant out while the engine is running and =
add a chemical which tests for hydrocarbons.=C2=A0 Sure enough, hydrocarbon=
s were getting into my coolant system.=C2=A0 That says bad head gasket or c=
rack in the head.=C2=A0 Since I'd had the head magnafluxed during the rebui=
ld, I assumed it was the head gasket.
I began asking around about where I could get a good gasket.=C2=A0 A guy at=
a local engine shop (primarily Ford engines) recommended Cometic.=C2=A0 I =
had never heard of them, and told him the engine was over 50 years old, so =
surely they would not make a gasket for it.=C2=A0 He encouraged me to check=
the internet, and sure enough, they make a whole bunch of them for the TR =
engine.=C2=A0 It's been a few years ago, but as I recall, they had gaskets =
for different bores (i.e. 83MM, 86MM, 87MM, etc.) and you could order diffe=
rent thicknesses.=C2=A0 They stacked steel gaskets on top of each other to =
get to the thickness desired.=C2=A0 I think I ordered a 3 layer gasket.=C2=
=A0 It all sounded a little fishy, but based on the strong recommendation I=
had received, I ordered one.
I removed the bad head gasket and replaced it with the Cometic gasket, and =
suddenly the engine ran great.=C2=A0 I have put almost 7.000 miles on the c=
ar since then and haven't had a problem.=C2=A0 It runs cool (even on 95 deg=
ree days, as tested recently), pulls strong, and no sign of any coolant lea=
ks.=C2=A0 By the way, I noticed someone else recommended Hylomar gasket cem=
ent.=C2=A0 I also used that.=C2=A0 A light coat on all sealing surfaces doe=
s the trick.=C2=A0 Do not spray a thick coat.=C2=A0 Below is the link to th=
e Cometic web site.=C2=A0 Check it out.
Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Extreme Pressure
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Phil, Dave,
I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 =
#802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust.
Thank youMichael L
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r about the sleeve standing proud of the block, however, be careful that yo=
u don't have too much protrusion, (ask me how I know=F0=9F=A4=94) I believe=
the spec is 2 to 5 thousandths. I use a copper gasket so I'm at about 3. M=
orty Dunst made my gasket and he can do them in various thicknesses.<div>Ch=
eers!</div><div>Russ Westfall <br><div><div><br><br><a href=3D"https:/=
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; margin-top: 0">On Saturday, August 1, 2020, 4:52 AM, Phil Gott via Fot &l=
t;fot@autox.team.net> wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"iosymail"><div id=
=3D"yiv5461992557"><div>Michael;<div>It is also critical that the liners pr=
otrude above the block by .005 to .007=E2=80=9D to ensure a good seal. This=
is before any compression of the figure 8 gaskets. If the protrusion=
is less, the top of the block should be milled to achieve the proper protr=
usion.</div><div>If you have milled the head more than about .060 you shoul=
d consider staking the head around the bores between cylinders two and thre=
e per the Kastner book. It is weak in this area.</div><div>The rest of the =
advice you=E2=80=99ve received is pretty sound, but I have not tried all of=
it.</div><div>Depending on how much you=E2=80=99ve milled the head and wha=
t you have done with the combustion chambers, you may need to reshape the f=
ire ring area of your gasket. It must not protrude at all into the combusti=
on chamber.</div><div>Phil<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
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ler via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
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display-url">I've read all of the comments, but haven't heard anything abou=
t Cometic. I had rebuilt my TR-3 engine a number of years ago, using =
the stock head gasket. I built the engine as I would have built one o=
f my race engines in the day, except with a milder cam and less compression=
(10.5:1). From day 1 it never really ran right. I began to sus=
pect coolant was getting into the combustion chamber, so I bought one of th=
ose test kits where you pull some coolant out while the engine is running a=
nd add a chemical which tests for hydrocarbons. Sure enough, hydrocar=
bons were getting into my coolant system. That says bad head gasket o=
r crack in the head. Since I'd had the head magnafluxed during the re=
build, I assumed it was the head gasket.</cite></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><span><cite class=3D"yiv5461992557ydp93995a00algo-display-url"><br clear=
=3D"none"></cite></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><cite class=3D"yiv5461=
992557ydp93995a00algo-display-url">I began asking around about where I coul=
d get a good gasket. A guy at a local engine shop (primarily Ford eng=
ines) recommended Cometic. I had never heard of them, and told him th=
e engine was over 50 years old, so surely they would not make a gasket for =
it. He encouraged me to check the internet, and sure enough, they mak=
e a whole bunch of them for the TR engine. It's been a few years ago,=
but as I recall, they had gaskets for different bores (i.e. 83MM, 86MM, 87=
MM, etc.) and you could order different thicknesses. They stacked ste=
el gaskets on top of each other to get to the thickness desired. I th=
ink I ordered a 3 layer gasket. It all sounded a little fishy, but ba=
sed on the strong recommendation I had received, I ordered one.</cite></spa=
n></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><cite class=3D"yiv5461992557ydp93995a00algo-=
display-url"><br clear=3D"none"></cite></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>=
<cite class=3D"yiv5461992557ydp93995a00algo-display-url">I removed the bad =
head gasket and replaced it with the Cometic gasket, and suddenly the engin=
e ran great. I have put almost 7.000 miles on the car since then and =
haven't had a problem. It runs cool (even on 95 degree days, as teste=
d recently), pulls strong, and no sign of any coolant leaks. By the w=
ay, I noticed someone else recommended Hylomar gasket cement. I also =
used that. A light coat on all sealing surfaces does the trick. =
Do not spray a thick coat. Below is the link to the Cometic web site=
. Check it out.<br clear=3D"none"></cite></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
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<div>I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green=
TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust.</div>
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<div>Thank you</div>
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