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I would put my money on the suggestion of Phil Gott about the crankshaft th=
rust washers : if one of these thrust washer has fallen out, the crankshaft=
can move for- and afterwards : this can easily be checked by moving the cr=
ankshaft pulley with large screwdrivers: when the thrust washer has fallen =
out, the pulley(and the crankshaft with it) can be moved by one or 2 mm.=20
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Aan: "fubog1" <fubog1@aol.com>, "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>=20
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Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Its Opinion Tyme Again...=20
Nick,=20
My other suggestion would have been to try a smaller master cylinder. I hav=
e a similar setup with Tilton dual discs and went to a larger .75 master, b=
ecause my pedal movement was too far! But you=E2=80=99ve already tried that=
one!=20
Dave=20
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wrote:=20
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It suddenly started acting like an off/on switch with no chance of slippage=
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Was it all in good working order and then it just got funky or did anything=
lead up to it?=20
It sounds like a heck of a shock load to break a gear, hard to believe that=
it's a friction surface issue, sounds more mechanical.=20
Glen=20
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To: fot@autox.team.net <fot@autox.team.net>=20
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Subject: [Fot] Its Opinion Tyme Again...=20
OK, so I've had a weird problem with the clutch on The Duke of Oil (TR4A). =
It suddenly started acting like an off/on switch with no chance of slippage=
to get goin. The engagement was so sudden that it broke a side gear in the=
locker. Upon review everything appeared well within spec. I changed the cl=
utch disc. transmission input shaft and changed the throwout bearing sleeve=
. No dice...same issue.=20
Got it apart again and have changed everything...disc, pressure plate, bear=
ing, crankshaft bush, cross shaft bushings, clutch hose, clutch slave cylin=
der and clutch master cylinder...pedal assembly seems smooth without any bi=
nding. Have also double pinned the throwout fork to the cross shaft.=20
SO...any thoughts?=20
Also have pinned the throwout bearing flange so that it will not spin on th=
e sleeve. Anybody else pin the flange, or do you let it turn on the sleeve?=
Why/why not?=20
Broken gears and tears in NorCal=20
Nick=20
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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-seri=
f; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000"><div><br></div><div>I would put my mone=
y on the suggestion of Phil Gott about the crankshaft thrust washers : if o=
ne of these thrust washer has fallen out, the crankshaft can move for- and =
afterwards : this can easily be checked by moving the crankshaft pulley wit=
h large screwdrivers: when the thrust washer has fallen out, the pulley(and=
the crankshaft with it) can be moved by one or 2 mm.</div><div>Marcel</div=
><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=3D"__DIVI=
DER__"><div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>Van: </b>"fot" <fot@autox.tea=
m.net><br><b>Aan: </b>"fubog1" <fubog1@aol.com>, "fot" <fot@aut=
ox.team.net><br><b>Verzonden: </b>Woensdag 22 april 2020 19:18:46<br><b>=
Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] Its Opinion Tyme Again...<br></div><div><br></div>=
<div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__">
Nick,<br><div>My other suggestion would have been to try a smaller master c=
ylinder. I have a similar setup with Tilton dual discs and went to a =
larger .75 master, because my pedal movement was too far! But you=E2=
=80=99ve already tried that one!</div><br><div>Dave<br><br><br><a href=3D"h=
ttps://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=3DiOS" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofoll=
ow noopener noreferrer">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br><br><p class=
=3D"yahoo-quoted-begin" style=3D"font-size:15px;color:#715ffa;padding-top:1=
5px;margin-top:0">On Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 12:57 PM, fubog1 via Fot &l=
t;fot@autox.team.net> wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"iosymail"><div id=
=3D"yiv7755255492"><div><div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt 'arial' , 'helv=
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><blockquote style=3D"border-left:2px solid blue;padding-left:3px">It sudde=
nly started acting like an off/on switch with no chance of slippage </block=
quote></div>
<div> Was it all in good working order and then it just got funky or did an=
ything lead up to it?</div>
<div>It sounds like a heck of a shock load to break a gear, hard to believe=
that it's a friction surface issue, sounds more mechanical.</div>
<div>Glen<br clear=3D"none">
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From: Nick Black via Fot <fot@autox.team.net><br clear=3D"none">
To: fot@autox.team.net <fot@autox.team.net><br clear=3D"none">
Sent: Tue, Apr 21, 2020 9:08 pm<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: [Fot] Its Opinion Tyme Again...<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">OK, so I've had a weird problem with the clutch on The Duk=
e of Oil (TR4A). It suddenly started acting like an off/on switch with no c=
hance of slippage to get goin. The engagement was so sudden that it broke a=
side gear in the locker. Upon review everything appeared well within spec.=
I changed the clutch disc. transmission input shaft and changed the throwo=
ut bearing sleeve. No dice...same issue.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Got it apart again and have changed everything...disc, pre=
ssure plate, bearing, crankshaft bush, cross shaft bushings, clutch hose, c=
lutch slave cylinder and clutch master cylinder...pedal assembly seems smoo=
th without any binding. Have also double pinned the throwout fork to the cr=
oss shaft.</div>
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</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">SO...any thoughts?</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Also have pinned the throwout bearing flange so that it wi=
ll not spin on the sleeve. Anybody else pin the flange, or do you let it tu=
rn on the sleeve? Why/why not?</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Broken gears and tears in NorCal</div>
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