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Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Safety Gear

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Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Safety Gear
From: John Styduhar via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 16:35:17 -0500
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SA 2010 helmets are also good through the end of next year.


On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 6:40 PM vfracing--- via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Note the language used by SVRA for fire systems:
>
> On Board Fire Suppression Systems and Fire Extinguishers shall be
> maintained according the manufacture=E2=80=99s recommendations.
>
> This is similar to the SCCA.
>
> For systems bearing an SFI label, this means they need to be tested every
> two years.   Dates are month-specific and shown on the label on the
> bottle.  Sometimes this is enforced, sometimes not.
>
> The small handheld fire extinguishers typically used (where allowed) in
> race cars often have  no periodic maintenance schedule on them.  Note tha=
t
> the National Fire Protection Association indicates a life expectancy of 1=
2
> to 15 years.
>
> Phil
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> To: Christian Marx <tr4racing@googlemail.com>
> Cc: fot@autox. team. net <fot@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2019 4:41 pm
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Safety Gear
>
> Hi Christian, mine is the same. It was built before the FIA adopted a
> standard. It is good forever, (kind of like SPAM) from a sanctioning body
> point of view, it has no expiration date explicitly listed. But, I found
> out the helmet straps do have a date on them and a fixed lifetime .SCCA, =
my
> normal run group, doesn't check them as long as the HANS frame is in
> compliance. SVRA does look and I had to buy a new tether at the track.
> I have an original HANS brand device, I can't speak to the requirements o=
r
> limitations on other manufacture's hardware.
>
> mike h
>
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 3:29 PM Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> my HANS doesn=E2=80=99t has a expire date on it. Means it lasts forever?
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
>
>
> *Von:* Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> *Im Auftrag von *marty via Fot
> *Gesendet:* Montag, 9. Dezember 2019 18:57
> *Cc:* 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* [Fot] Kastner Cup Safety Gear
>
> Scott brings up an good point. Based on my tech experience at Watkins
> Glen, SVRA did a typical inspection on my car but they did go through all
> my gear and belts with a fine tooth comb. All your gear including your he=
ad
> and neck restraint MUST be up to date. If your HANS (or whatever version
> you run) is not current per the SVRA rules send them out for
> recertification now or you WILL have issues at tech come June.
>
> Marty
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Scott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 9, 2019 10:37 AM
> *To:* marty <trmarty@hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] 2020 Kastner Cup December Update
>
> signed up. Easy.  If you are not doing any of the special events it=E2=80=
=99s only
> $100 to sign up.
> Time to send my Hans off to get re-certified - I hear SVRA checks this an=
d
> belts.
>
> Scott Janzen
> GT6
>
> On Dec 7, 2019, at 8:44 AM, marty via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Good morning all. There is a bunch of activity going on behind the scenes
> for next years Kastner Cup at Mid Ohio. Some really neat things are falli=
ng
> into place. I should be able to share them with the masses next month
> hopefully when more things are finalized. On my unofficial list I have 58
> Triumph racers that have expressed intentions to be there. Given that som=
e
> will not be able to make it and some will show up that are not on the FOT
> list it is looking like this will be a new record for the Kastner Cup
> races. I plan to start begging for paddock spots with SVRA in January. I
> have sketched out a preliminary paddock map and if everybody shows up we
> will be taking over more than half of the upper paddock. I need you to lo=
g
> onto the SVRA site and register for the event if you have not done so yet=
.
> Remember, this race is only going to cost you $100 and if you are able to
> start the feature race (Kastner Cup) on  Sunday you will get your $100
> back.  I have my driver count but when it comes to secure paddock space f=
or
> the group the number of registrations is what is going to count when SVRA
> is going assign us spots. Stay warm and get those Triumphs ready!
>
> Marty Sukey
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">SA =
2010 helmets are also good through the end of next year.</div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"></div><div class=3D"gmail_default=
" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 6:40 PM vfraci=
ng--- via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt arial">Note the language used by SVRA f=
or fire systems:
<div><br>

<div><span style=3D"font-family:-webkit-standard;font-size:medium">On Board=
 Fire Suppression Systems and Fire Extinguishers shall be maintained accord=
ing the manufacture=E2=80=99s recommendations.=C2=A0</span></div>

<div><span style=3D"font-family:-webkit-standard;font-size:medium"><br>
</span></div>

<div><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><font size=3D"2=
">This is similar to the SCCA.</font></span></div>

<div><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif=
"><br>
</span>For systems bearing an SFI label, this means they need to be tested =
every two years. =C2=A0 Dates are month-specific and shown on the label on =
the bottle.=C2=A0 Sometimes this is enforced, sometimes not.=C2=A0</font></=
div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>The small handheld fire extinguishers typically used (where allowed) i=
n race cars often have =C2=A0no periodic maintenance schedule on them.=C2=
=A0 Note that the National Fire Protection Association indicates a life exp=
ectancy of 12 to 15 years. =C2=A0</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Phil</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div><br>
<br>

<div style=3D"font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----=
Original Message-----<br>
From: Mike Harmuth via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
To: Christian Marx &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"; target=
=3D"_blank">tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: fot@autox. team. net &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2019 4:41 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Safety Gear<br>
<br>

<div id=3D"gmail-m_2689014176136475678yiv0716954263">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Christian, mine is the same. It was built before the FI=
A adopted a standard. It is good forever, (kind of like SPAM) from a sancti=
oning body point of view, it has no expiration date explicitly listed. But,=
 I found out the helmet straps do have a date on them and a fixed lifetime =
.SCCA, my normal run group, doesn&#39;t check them as long as the HANS fram=
e is in compliance. SVRA does look and I had to buy a new tether at the tra=
ck.=C2=A0
<div>I have an original=C2=A0HANS brand device, I can&#39;t speak to the re=
quirements or limitations on other manufacture&#39;s hardware.</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>mike h</div>
</div>
<br clear=3D"none">
<div>
<div id=3D"gmail-m_2689014176136475678yiv0716954263yqt40195">
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 3:29 PM Chris Marx via Fot &lt;<a r=
el=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net=
" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></d=
iv>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div lang=3D"DE">
<div>
<div><span>Hi Guys,<u></u><u></u></span></div>

<div><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div>

<div><span lang=3D"EN-US">my HANS doesn=E2=80=99t has a expire date on it. =
Means it lasts forever?<u></u><u></u></span></div>

<div><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div>

<div><span lang=3D"EN-US">Cheers<u></u><u></u></span></div>

<div><span lang=3D"EN-US">Chris<u></u><u></u></span></div>

<div><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div>

<div><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div>

<div><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div>

<div>
<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-=
top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm">
<div><b>Von:</b> Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot-bounces@autox.=
team.net</a>&gt; <b>Im Auftrag von </b>marty via Fot<br clear=3D"none"><b>G=
esendet:</b> Montag, 9. Dezember 2019 18:57<br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b> &#=
39;Friends of Triumph&#39; Triumph &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=
=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.te=
am.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Betreff:</b> [Fot] Kastner Cup Safety G=
ear<u></u><u></u></div>
</div>
</div>

<div><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div>

<div>
<div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black">Scott brings up an good poi=
nt. Based on my tech experience at Watkins Glen, SVRA did a typical inspect=
ion on my car but they did go through all my gear and belts with a fine too=
th comb. All your gear including your head and neck restraint MUST be up to=
 date. If your HANS (or whatever version you run) is not current per the SV=
RA rules send them out for recertification now or you WILL have issues at t=
ech come June.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span>=
</div>
</div>

<div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black">Marty<u></u><u></u></span><=
/div>
</div>

<div align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center"><hr align=3D"center" size=
=3D"2" width=3D"98%"></div>

<div id=3D"gmail-m_2689014176136475678yiv0716954263gmail-m_-154274391885053=
9889divRplyFwdMsg">
<div><b><span style=3D"color:black">From:</span></b><span style=3D"color:bl=
ack"> Scott Janzen &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"mailto:sjanzen@me.com"; target=3D"_blank">sjanzen@me.com</a>&gt;<br clea=
r=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 9, 2019 10:37 AM<br clear=3D"none"=
><b>To:</b> marty &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D=
"mailto:trmarty@hotmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">trmarty@hotmail.com</a>&gt;<=
br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b> &#39;Friends of Triumph&#39; Triumph &lt;<a re=
l=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"=
 target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:=
</b> Re: [Fot] 2020 Kastner Cup December Update</span> <u></u><u></u></div>

<div>
<div>=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></div>
</div>
</div>

<div>
<div>signed up. Easy.=C2=A0 If you are not doing any of the special events =
it=E2=80=99s only $100 to sign up. <u></u><u></u></div>

<div>
<div>Time to send my Hans off to get re-certified - I hear SVRA checks this=
 and belts.<u></u><u></u></div>
</div>

<div>
<div><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div>
</div>

<div>
<div>Scott Janzen<u></u><u></u></div>
</div>

<div>
<div>GT6<u></u><u></u></div>

<div>
<div><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div>

<div>
<div>On Dec 7, 2019, at 8:44 AM, marty via Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noref=
errer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">=
fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></div>
</div>

<div><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div>

<div>
<div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">Good morning all. There is a bunch of a=
ctivity going on behind the scenes for next years Kastner Cup at Mid Ohio. =
Some really neat things are falling into place. I should be able to share t=
hem with the masses next month hopefully when more things are finalized. On=
 my unofficial list I have 58 Triumph racers that have expressed intentions=
 to be there. Given that some will not be able to make it and some will sho=
w up that are not on the FOT list it is looking like this will be a new rec=
ord for the Kastner Cup races. I plan to start begging for paddock spots wi=
th SVRA in January. I have sketched out a preliminary paddock map and if ev=
erybody shows up we will be taking over more than half of the upper paddock=
. I need you to log onto the SVRA site and register for the event if you ha=
ve not done so yet. Remember, this race is only going to cost you $100 and =
if you are able to start the feature race (Kastner Cup) on=C2=A0 Sunday you=
 will get your $100 back.=C2=A0 I have my driver count but when it comes to=
 secure paddock space for the group the number of registrations is what is =
going to count when SVRA is going assign us spots. Stay warm and get those =
Triumphs ready!<u></u><u></u></span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">Marty Sukey<u></u><u></u></span></div>
</div>

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