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Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Safety Gear
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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 23:39:57 +0000 (UTC)
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Note the language used by SVRA for fire systems:
On Board Fire Suppression Systems and Fire Extinguishers shall be maintaine=
d according the manufacture=E2=80=99s recommendations.=C2=A0
This is similar to the SCCA.
For systems bearing an SFI label, this means they need to be tested every t=
wo years. =C2=A0 Dates are month-specific and shown on the label on the bot=
tle. =C2=A0Sometimes this is enforced, sometimes not.=C2=A0
The small handheld fire extinguishers typically used (where allowed) in rac=
e cars often have =C2=A0no periodic maintenance schedule on them. =C2=A0Not=
e that the National Fire Protection Association indicates a life expectancy=
 of 12 to 15 years. =C2=A0
Phil


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
To: Christian Marx <tr4racing@googlemail.com>
Cc: fot@autox. team. net <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2019 4:41 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Safety Gear

Hi Christian, mine is the same. It was built before the FIA adopted a stand=
ard. It is good forever, (kind of like SPAM) from a sanctioning body point =
of view, it has no expiration date explicitly listed. But, I found out the =
helmet straps do have a date on them and a fixed lifetime .SCCA, my normal =
run group, doesn't check them as long as the HANS frame is in compliance. S=
VRA does look and I had to buy a new tether at the track.=C2=A0I have an or=
iginal=C2=A0HANS brand device, I can't speak to the requirements or limitat=
ions on other manufacture's hardware.
mike h
On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 3:29 PM Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrot=
e:

Hi Guys,=C2=A0my HANS doesn=E2=80=99t has a expire date on it. Means it las=
ts forever?=C2=A0CheersChris=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Von: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.t=
eam.net> Im Auftrag von marty via Fot
Gesendet: Montag, 9. Dezember 2019 18:57
Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
Betreff: [Fot] Kastner Cup Safety Gear=C2=A0Scott brings up an good point. =
Based on my tech experience at Watkins Glen, SVRA did a typical inspection =
on my car but they did go through all my gear and belts with a fine tooth c=
omb. All your gear including your head and neck restraint MUST be up to dat=
e. If your HANS (or whatever version you run) is not current per the SVRA r=
ules send them out for recertification now or you WILL have issues at tech =
come June.=C2=A0MartyFrom: Scott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com>
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2019 10:37 AM
To: marty <trmarty@hotmail.com>
Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] 2020 Kastner Cup December Update =C2=A0signed up. Easy.=
=C2=A0 If you are not doing any of the special events it=E2=80=99s only $10=
0 to sign up. Time to send my Hans off to get re-certified - I hear SVRA ch=
ecks this and belts.=C2=A0Scott JanzenGT6=C2=A0On Dec 7, 2019, at 8:44 AM, =
marty via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:=C2=A0Good morning all. There is a=
 bunch of activity going on behind the scenes for next years Kastner Cup at=
 Mid Ohio. Some really neat things are falling into place. I should be able=
 to share them with the masses next month hopefully when more things are fi=
nalized. On my unofficial list I have 58 Triumph racers that have expressed=
 intentions to be there. Given that some will not be able to make it and so=
me will show up that are not on the FOT list it is looking like this will b=
e a new record for the Kastner Cup races. I plan to start begging for paddo=
ck spots with SVRA in January. I have sketched out a preliminary paddock ma=
p and if everybody shows up we will be taking over more than half of the up=
per paddock. I need you to log onto the SVRA site and register for the even=
t if you have not done so yet. Remember, this race is only going to cost yo=
u $100 and if you are able to start the feature race (Kastner Cup) on=C2=A0=
 Sunday you will get your $100 back.=C2=A0 I have my driver count but when =
it comes to secure paddock space for the group the number of registrations =
is what is going to count when SVRA is going assign us spots. Stay warm and=
 get those Triumphs ready!=C2=A0Marty Sukey________________________________=
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<div style=3D"color:black;font: 10pt arial;">Note the language used by SVRA=
 for fire systems:
<div><br>

<div><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-standard; font-size: medium;">On B=
oard Fire Suppression Systems and Fire Extinguishers shall be maintained ac=
cording the manufacture=E2=80=99s recommendations.&nbsp;</span></div>

<div><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-standard; font-size: medium;"><br>
</span></div>

<div><span style=3D"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><font size=
=3D"2">This is similar to the SCCA.</font></span></div>

<div><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-se=
rif;"><br>
</span>For systems bearing an SFI label, this means they need to be tested =
every two years. &nbsp; Dates are month-specific and shown on the label on =
the bottle. &nbsp;Sometimes this is enforced, sometimes not.&nbsp;</font></=
div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>The small handheld fire extinguishers typically used (where allowed) i=
n race cars often have &nbsp;no periodic maintenance schedule on them. &nbs=
p;Note that the National Fire Protection Association indicates a life expec=
tancy of 12 to 15 years. &nbsp;</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Phil</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div><br>
<br>

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Original Message-----<br>
From: Mike Harmuth via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
To: Christian Marx &lt;tr4racing@googlemail.com&gt;<br>
Cc: fot@autox. team. net &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2019 4:41 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Safety Gear<br>
<br>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Christian, mine is the same. It was built before the FI=
A adopted a standard. It is good forever, (kind of like SPAM) from a sancti=
oning body point of view, it has no expiration date explicitly listed. But,=
 I found out the helmet straps do have a date on them and a fixed lifetime =
.SCCA, my normal run group, doesn't check them as long as the HANS frame is=
 in compliance. SVRA does look and I had to buy a new tether at the track.&=
nbsp;
<div>I have an original&nbsp;HANS brand device, I can't speak to the requir=
ements or limitations on other manufacture's hardware.</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>mike h</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv0716954263gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 3=
:29 PM Chris Marx via Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect"=
 ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot=
@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div>
<blockquote class=3D"yiv0716954263gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">
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<div class=3D"yiv0716954263gmail-m_-1542743918850539889WordSection1">
<div class=3D"yiv0716954263MsoNormal"><span>Hi Guys,<u></u><u></u></span></=
div>

<div class=3D"yiv0716954263MsoNormal"><span><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></di=
v>

<div class=3D"yiv0716954263MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">my HANS doesn=E2=
=80=99t has a expire date on it. Means it lasts forever?<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0716954263MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>&nbsp;<u>=
</u></span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0716954263MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Cheers<u></u><u>=
</u></span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0716954263MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Chris<u></u><u><=
/u></span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0716954263MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>&nbsp;<u>=
</u></span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0716954263MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>&nbsp;<u>=
</u></span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0716954263MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>&nbsp;<u>=
</u></span></div>

<div>
<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-=
top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm;">
<div class=3D"yiv0716954263MsoNormal"><b>Von:</b> Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"noopene=
r noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";>fot-bounces@au=
tox.team.net</a>&gt; <b>Im Auftrag von </b>marty via Fot<br clear=3D"none">=
<b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 9. Dezember 2019 18:57<br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b=
> 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"=
rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailt=
o:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Betre=
ff:</b> [Fot] Kastner Cup Safety Gear<u></u><u></u></div>
</div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0716954263MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></div>

<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0716954263MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:b=
lack;">Scott brings up an good point. Based on my tech experience at Watkin=
s Glen, SVRA did a typical inspection on my car but they did go through all=
 my gear and belts with a fine tooth comb. All your gear including your hea=
d and neck restraint MUST be up to date. If your HANS (or whatever version =
you run) is not current per the SVRA rules send them out for recertificatio=
n now or you WILL have issues at tech come June.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0716954263MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:b=
lack;"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0716954263MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:b=
lack;">Marty<u></u><u></u></span></div>
</div>

<div align=3D"center" class=3D"yiv0716954263MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:=
center;"><hr align=3D"center" size=3D"2" width=3D"98%"></div>

<div id=3D"yiv0716954263gmail-m_-1542743918850539889divRplyFwdMsg">
<div class=3D"yiv0716954263MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"color:black;">From:=
</span></b><span style=3D"color:black;"> Scott Janzen &lt;<a rel=3D"noopene=
r noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:sjanzen@me.com"; target=3D"_b=
lank" href=3D"mailto:sjanzen@me.com";>sjanzen@me.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"non=
e"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 9, 2019 10:37 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:<=
/b> marty &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mail=
to:trmarty@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:trmarty@hotmail.co=
m">trmarty@hotmail.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b> 'Friends of Tri=
umph' Triumph &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"=
mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.=
net">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot]=
 2020 Kastner Cup December Update</span> <u></u><u></u></div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0716954263MsoNormal">&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></div>
</div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0716954263MsoNormal">signed up. Easy.&nbsp; If you are not=
 doing any of the special events it=E2=80=99s only $100 to sign up. <u></u>=
<u></u></div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0716954263MsoNormal">Time to send my Hans off to get re-ce=
rtified - I hear SVRA checks this and belts.<u></u><u></u></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0716954263MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0716954263MsoNormal">Scott Janzen<u></u><u></u></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0716954263MsoNormal">GT6<u></u><u></u></div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0716954263MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0716954263MsoNormal">On Dec 7, 2019, at 8:44 AM, marty via=
 Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fo=
t@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv0716954263MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></div>

<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0716954263MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">Good =
morning all. There is a bunch of activity going on behind the scenes for ne=
xt years Kastner Cup at Mid Ohio. Some really neat things are falling into =
place. I should be able to share them with the masses next month hopefully =
when more things are finalized. On my unofficial list I have 58 Triumph rac=
ers that have expressed intentions to be there. Given that some will not be=
 able to make it and some will show up that are not on the FOT list it is l=
ooking like this will be a new record for the Kastner Cup races. I plan to =
start begging for paddock spots with SVRA in January. I have sketched out a=
 preliminary paddock map and if everybody shows up we will be taking over m=
ore than half of the upper paddock. I need you to log onto the SVRA site an=
d register for the event if you have not done so yet. Remember, this race i=
s only going to cost you $100 and if you are able to start the feature race=
 (Kastner Cup) on&nbsp; Sunday you will get your $100 back.&nbsp; I have my=
 driver count but when it comes to secure paddock space for the group the n=
umber of registrations is what is going to count when SVRA is going assign =
us spots. Stay warm and get those Triumphs ready!<u></u><u></u></span></div=
>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0716954263MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;"><u></=
u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></div>
</div>

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<div class=3D"yiv0716954263MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">Marty=
 Sukey<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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