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Hi Randall.=C2=A0 Thanks again.=C2=A0 I took your exploded diagram and ins=
tructions to the guy working on my starter yesterday.=C2=A0 It looks to me =
like he is doing everything right, but it just won't come apart.=C2=A0 He's=
reluctant to apply too much pressure, or hit it too hard with a hammer, fo=
r fear of breaking something.=C2=A0 He's removed the collar and the two ret=
aining rings, but can't slide the bendix off the shaft.=C2=A0 He's working =
with 2 starters and both are experiencing the same problem.=C2=A0 I'm wonde=
ring if it might just be a build-up of rust on the shaft, that is keeping i=
t from coming apart.=C2=A0 Do you have any experience with this?
This is getting frustration.=C2=A0 Best regards.
Jack
On Friday, October 18, 2019, 9:32:40 AM EDT, Randall <TR3driver@ca.rr.c=
om> wrote: =20
=20
That's just from the workshop manual.=C2=A0 Here's the whole thing
https://drive.google.com/open?id=3D0B2H2NJt34OffYWZiN2VlZGMtNTkxMi00NGUzLWE=
4Nz
MtMGRkODRkYzU3MDU1
-- Randall=20
56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily driver
71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild
71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack Wheeler [mailto:jwheeler1947@yahoo.com]=20
> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 5:40 AM
> To: Randall
> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-2/3 Starter Question
>=20
> Thanks, Randall.=C2=A0 The exploded diagram will be very helpful.
>=20
> Jack
>=20
>=20
> On Thursday, October 17, 2019, 7:53:40 PM EDT, Randall=20
> <TR3driver@ca.rr.com> wrote:=20
>=20
>=20
> It has been awhile, but I've had those early starters apart=20
> many times.
>=20
> In the attached diagram, you pull away the collar, A, then=20
> pry the retaining ring B out of it's groove.=C2=A0 Then you have=20
> to work retaining ring C out of the pinion barrel D.=C2=A0 With it=20
> removed, the pinion & barrel should just slide off, exposing=20
> the Bendix drive inside.=20
>=20
> I've not asked recently, but my FLAPS used to be able to send=20
> those old starters out to be rebuilt.=C2=A0 Quoted turnaround was=20
> 1 week, but I never tried it.=C2=A0 Wouldn't let me talk to the=20
> rebuilder directly, though.
>=20
> Frankly, I got disgusted and installed a gear-drive starter=20
> instead.=C2=A0 After 10 years of near-daily usage, it did need new=20
> bearings and the brushes were about half gone, but I still=20
> think it's better.=C2=A0 For one thing, it doesn't have the=20
> "bonded rubber" drive that seems to fail quite often trying=20
> to crank a high compression engine.
>=20
> BFE used to sell a "fail safe" replacement for the rubber=20
> drive, but I think I got the last one many years ago and Ken=20
> said he wasn't having any more made.=C2=A0 The current proprietor=20
> of BFE probably doesn't know anything about them.
>=20
> -- Randall
> 56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily driver
> 71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild
> 71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild=20
>=20
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of=20
> > Jack Wheeler via Fot
> > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 10:29 AM
> > To: FOT List
> > Subject: [Fot] TR-2/3 Starter Question
> >=20
> > Does anyone have any experience with rebuilding the early=20
> > starters, as used on TR-2's and TR-3's, up to about chassis=20
> > number 50,000 (the "long" starters)?=C2=A0 i took my starter to a=20
> > local electrical shop a couple of months ago and he is stuck.=20
> >=C2=A0 He can't figure out how to remove the pinion (with gear)=20
> > from the shaft.=C2=A0 Is there a secret to getting the pinion off?
> >=20
> > Or, does anyone know of any place that rebuilds these early=20
> > starters, who may be able to help me with this question?=C2=A0 Or,=20
> > I could send the starter to them.
> >=20
> >=20
> > Thanks for any help you can give me.
> >=20
> > Jack Wheeler
> >=20
> >=20
>=20
>=20
=20
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<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Hi Randall. Thanks aga=
in. I took your exploded diagram and instructions to the guy working =
on my starter yesterday. It looks to me like he is doing everything r=
ight, but it just won't come apart. He's reluctant to apply too much =
pressure, or hit it too hard with a hammer, for fear of breaking something.=
He's removed the collar and the two retaining rings, but can't slide=
the bendix off the shaft. He's working with 2 starters and both are =
experiencing the same problem. I'm wondering if it might just be a bu=
ild-up of rust on the shaft, that is keeping it from coming apart. Do=
you have any experience with this?</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fa=
lse"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">This is getting frust=
ration. Best regards.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br=
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<div><div dir=3D"ltr">That's just from the workshop manual.=
Here's the whole thing<br clear=3D"none"><a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"h=
ttps://drive.google.com/open?id=3D0B2H2NJt34OffYWZiN2VlZGMtNTkxMi00NGUzLWE4=
Nz" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://drive.google.com/open?id=3D0=
B2H2NJt34OffYWZiN2VlZGMtNTkxMi00NGUzLWE4Nz</a><br clear=3D"none">MtMGRkODRk=
YzU3MDU1<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">-- Randall <br clear=3D"none"=
>56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily driver<br clear=3D"none">71 Stag LE1=
473 - awaiting engine rebuild<br clear=3D"none">71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gear=
box rebuild <br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydpca0f5aa4yqt7229676286" id=
=3D"ydpca0f5aa4yqtfd82454"><br clear=3D"none">> -----Original Message---=
--<br clear=3D"none">> From: Jack Wheeler [mailto:<a shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"mailto:jwheeler1947@yahoo.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">jwhee=
ler1947@yahoo.com</a>] <br clear=3D"none">> Sent: Friday, October 18, 20=
19 5:40 AM<br clear=3D"none">> To: Randall<br clear=3D"none">> Subjec=
t: Re: [Fot] TR-2/3 Starter Question<br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"no=
ne">> Thanks, Randall. The exploded diagram will be very helpful.<=
br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none">> Jack<br clear=3D"none">> =
<br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none">> On Thursday, October 17, 20=
19, 7:53:40 PM EDT, Randall <br clear=3D"none">> <<a shape=3D"rect" h=
ref=3D"mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">TR3dr=
iver@ca.rr.com</a>> wrote: <br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none">&g=
t; <br clear=3D"none">> It has been awhile, but I've had those early sta=
rters apart <br clear=3D"none">> many times.<br clear=3D"none">> <br =
clear=3D"none">> In the attached diagram, you pull away the collar, A, t=
hen <br clear=3D"none">> pry the retaining ring B out of it's groove.&nb=
sp; Then you have <br clear=3D"none">> to work retaining ring C out of t=
he pinion barrel D. With it <br clear=3D"none">> removed, the pini=
on & barrel should just slide off, exposing <br clear=3D"none">> the=
Bendix drive inside. <br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none">> I've =
not asked recently, but my FLAPS used to be able to send <br clear=3D"none"=
>> those old starters out to be rebuilt. Quoted turnaround was <br=
clear=3D"none">> 1 week, but I never tried it. Wouldn't let me ta=
lk to the <br clear=3D"none">> rebuilder directly, though.<br clear=3D"n=
one">> <br clear=3D"none">> Frankly, I got disgusted and installed a =
gear-drive starter <br clear=3D"none">> instead. After 10 years of=
near-daily usage, it did need new <br clear=3D"none">> bearings and the=
brushes were about half gone, but I still <br clear=3D"none">> think it=
's better. For one thing, it doesn't have the <br clear=3D"none">>=
"bonded rubber" drive that seems to fail quite often trying <br clear=3D"n=
one">> to crank a high compression engine.<br clear=3D"none">> <br cl=
ear=3D"none">> BFE used to sell a "fail safe" replacement for the rubber=
<br clear=3D"none">> drive, but I think I got the last one many years a=
go and Ken <br clear=3D"none">> said he wasn't having any more made.&nbs=
p; The current proprietor <br clear=3D"none">> of BFE probably doesn't k=
now anything about them.<br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none">> -- =
Randall<br clear=3D"none">> 56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily driver=
<br clear=3D"none">> 71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild<br clear=
=3D"none">> 71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild <br clear=3D"none">&g=
t; <br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none">> > -----Original Messa=
ge-----<br clear=3D"none">> > From: Fot [mailto:<a shape=3D"rect" hre=
f=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">=
fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of <br clear=3D"none">> > J=
ack Wheeler via Fot<br clear=3D"none">> > Sent: Thursday, October 17,=
2019 10:29 AM<br clear=3D"none">> > To: FOT List<br clear=3D"none">&=
gt; > Subject: [Fot] TR-2/3 Starter Question<br clear=3D"none">> >=
<br clear=3D"none">> > Does anyone have any experience with rebuildi=
ng the early <br clear=3D"none">> > starters, as used on TR-2's and T=
R-3's, up to about chassis <br clear=3D"none">> > number 50,000 (the =
"long" starters)? i took my starter to a <br clear=3D"none">> >=
local electrical shop a couple of months ago and he is stuck. <br clear=3D=
"none">> > He can't figure out how to remove the pinion (with g=
ear) <br clear=3D"none">> > from the shaft. Is there a secret t=
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