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Subject: [Fot] 89MM piston question
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 08:34:36 +0200
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My engine has sloppy 154 lbs ft at 3500 and a peak 165 lbs ft at 5500.

Peak power at 6100 ? 178 hp.

Bore 88mm, stroke standard.

Cast iron head, with standard diameter valves.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von Bill via Fot
Gesendet: Montag, 3. September 2018 06:01
An: Mordy Dunst <gasket.works at gte.net>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Betreff: Re: [Fot] 89MM piston question

 

I do have an engine that produces 186HP per liter?the one in my 750 MV Agusta 
Senna. 140 horsepower at 12600 RPM. I promise you that every one of those 
ponies counts. 60 lb-ft of torque at 10500 RPM. Scares the crap out of me. I?d 
buy that a TR motor could produce 200+ HP if it revved to 10K. Failing that, 
not so much. Certainly not with a two valve, non-crossflow head with cross 
sections that looks like the casting was molded with plumbing parts.  200HP at 
6000 rpm is 175 ft-lbs of torque. I think the most recent engine build for 
Peyote by Tony Garmey at Horizon Racing was about 140 ft-lbs peak, and it?s 
89mm with all the goodies. 






 

It always puzzles me when people say that. Horsepower is torque times RPM (and 
a conversion factor). Torque is horsepower/RPM. So how can one count more than 
the other? 






 

Its the torque that counts.  So, I suspect the motor enhancements took the 
benefit of the tractor stroke.  If the motor is  able  to produce  that power 
at 6k rpm with shift at 6500.    

I shift at @ 6200 - my motor produces  max power @5800 on the dyno. I use a 
kastner designed cam for which  I have the masters. 

 

 

 

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What kind of modifications were done to the engine to extract over 200 HP from 
a tractor engine?  Nitrous shot.

 

 


All of our FIA race cars are running legal 87mm engines.

Just rolling roaded the latest SLR build at well north of 200bhp

Thomas Boyd

Director

TR Enterprises

01623 793807 (ext 302) <tel:01623%20793807;302> 

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If you really had serious compliance with most group's rules, I would guess 
half the TR cars would not pass muster.  Let's have fun together.   

 

 


Indeed there are Glen.

 

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Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2018 7:34:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] 89MM piston question 

 

everybody else seems to be using 89.

HaHa not everybody, rules say 87mm, there are still a few guys running them 
(and winning)...

Glen 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Fri, Aug 31, 2018 11:26 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] 89MM piston question

I've always used 87 MM due to the rules but everybody else seems to be using 
89. The procedures are the same so It'll be the same. I blew a head gasket last 
time out, compression into the cooling system and blew off the bottom hose. I 
guess it wasn't tight enough, and scuffed two pistons before I could shut it 
down. 




Bob Kramer

 


Bob,

It is definitely necessary to make that modification to the liners. The relieve 
should correspond to the shape of the combustion chambers : about 4 mm wide on 
a 89mm engine.

Marcel

 


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Verzonden: Donderdag 30 augustus 2018 00:05:43
Onderwerp: [Fot] 89MM piston question

 

Do the guys running the 89MM pistons and liners need to relieve the liners to 
clear the intake valve, or does the extra MM make the difference?




Bob Kramer

 

On Tue, 


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