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Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rear Brake Swap
From: Pete via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 17:34:36 -0700
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 initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">15/16 is what the all drum=
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n: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">They also have two 1-inc=
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c brake mo bettah!</div>                                                   =
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size: 10pt;">  <div><b>From: </b>RWM via Datsun-roadsters</div><div><b>Sent=
: </b>Monday, August 31, 2015 4:49 PM</div><div><b>To: </b>Roy Haslett; Dat=
sun Roadster Listserver</div><div><b>Reply To: </b>RWM</div><div><b>Subject=
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    That seems to be the design point.&nbsp; <br>
    <br>
    I wonder what happens if you go to 7/8" or 15/16" cylinders?<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 8/31/2015 7:37 PM, Roy Haslett
      wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote cite=3D"mid:1775020639.3715183.1441064274534.JavaMail.yahoo=
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        <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1441064017868_3098" dir=3D"ltr">If I really
          stand on the brakes I will get the back to lock up, but this
          is with a close adjustment, and I did not want drag on the
          rear so I backed it off a bit.&nbsp; I think that the fronts are
          still doing 70% + of the stopping.<br>
        </div>
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        <br>
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style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b>
                RWM <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:RWM@R=
WMann.com">&lt;RWM@RWMann.com&gt;</a><br>
                <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Roy
                Haslett <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:h=
rhaslett@yahoo.com">&lt;hrhaslett@yahoo.com&gt;</a>; Datsun Roadster
                Listserver <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailt=
o:datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net">&lt;datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net&gt;<=
/a> <br>
                <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1441064017868_3088"><span id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_1_1441064017868_3087" style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> M=
onday,
                August 31, 2015 4:23 PM<br>
                <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
                Re: [Roadsters] Rear Brake Swap<br>
              </font> </div>
            <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1441064017868_2960" class=3D"y_msg_cont=
ainer"><br>
              <div id=3D"yiv6205076754">
                <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1441064017868_2961"> Thanks, Roy.<b=
r clear=3D"none">
                  <br clear=3D"none">
                  With the 13/16" cylinders, can you get the rears to
                  lock up before the fronts? Or a rearward brake bias?<br c=
lear=3D"none">
                  <br clear=3D"none">
                  - Bob<br clear=3D"none">
                  <br clear=3D"none">
                  <br clear=3D"none">
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                  <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br>
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                    <div class=3D"yiv6205076754moz-cite-prefix">On
                      8/31/2015 7:13 PM, Roy Haslett wrote:<br clear=3D"non=
e">
                    </div>
                    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
                      <div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-f=
amily:HelveticaNeue,
                        Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande,
                        sans-serif;font-size:16px;">Did not notice any
                        difference, however, the brakes weren't really
                        functioning very well.&nbsp; All 13/16 now.<br clea=
r=3D"none">
                        <div><span></span></div>
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                                <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:<=
/span></b>
                                RWM <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" rel=3D"nofo=
llow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv6205076754moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:RWM@RWMann.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:RWM@RWMann.com"=
>&lt;RWM@RWMann.com&gt;</a><br clear=3D"none">
                                <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">To:</s=
pan></b>
                                Roy Haslett <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" rel=
=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv6205076754moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" y=
mailto=3D"mailto:hrhaslett@yahoo.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:hrha=
slett@yahoo.com">&lt;hrhaslett@yahoo.com&gt;</a>;
                                Datsun Roadster Listserver <a moz-do-not-se=
nd=3D"true" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv6205076754moz-txt-l=
ink-rfc2396E" ymailto=3D"mailto:datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net"; target=3D"=
_blank" href=3D"mailto:datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net";></a><a class=3D"moz=
-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net";>&lt;dat=
sun-roadsters@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
                                <br clear=3D"none">
                                <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">Sent:<=
/span></b>
                                Monday, August 31, 2015 11:41 AM<br clear=
=3D"none">
                                <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">Subjec=
t:</span></b>
                                Re: [Roadsters] Rear Brake Swap<br clear=3D=
"none">
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                                <div> <font size=3D"+1"><font face=3D"Trebu=
chet MS">Roy,<br clear=3D"none">
                                      <br clear=3D"none">
                                      I gather you didn't notice the
                                      asymmetry until the rebuild?<br clear=
=3D"none">
                                      <br clear=3D"none">
                                      Did you go all 3/4 or all 13/16?<br c=
lear=3D"none">
                                      <br clear=3D"none">
                                      Any apparent difference once
                                      changed?<br clear=3D"none">
                                      <br clear=3D"none">
                                      - Bob<br clear=3D"none">
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                                    <div class=3D"yiv6205076754moz-cite-pre=
fix">On

                                      8/31/2015 2:34 PM, Roy Haslett
                                      wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
                                    </div>
                                    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
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olor:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,
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                                        <div dir=3D"ltr">I actually have a
                                          67 1600 and when I went to
                                          rebuild my rear cylinders I
                                          discovered I had a 3/4 on one
                                          wheel and a 13/16 on the
                                          other.&nbsp; 13/16 is stock and n=
ow
                                          hard to find and expensive,
                                          but I tend to follow what was
                                          originally engineered and
                                          designed for the car.<br clear=3D=
"none">
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                                              <hr size=3D"1"> <font size=3D=
"2" face=3D"Arial"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> R=
WM via Datsun-roadsters <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv6205076754moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto=3D"mailto:da=
tsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:datsun-road=
sters@autox.team.net"></a><a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto=
:datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net">&lt;datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net&gt;</=
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                                                <b><span style=3D"font-weig=
ht:bold;">To:</span></b>
                                                Datsun Roadster
                                                Listserver <a moz-do-not-se=
nd=3D"true" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv6205076754moz-txt-l=
ink-rfc2396E" ymailto=3D"mailto:datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net"; target=3D"=
_blank" href=3D"mailto:datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net";></a><a class=3D"moz=
-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net";>&lt;dat=
sun-roadsters@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
                                                <br clear=3D"none">
                                                <b><span style=3D"font-weig=
ht:bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                                                Sunday, August 30, 2015
                                                3:14 PM<br clear=3D"none">
                                                <b><span style=3D"font-weig=
ht:bold;">Subject:</span></b>
                                                Re: [Roadsters] Rear
                                                Brake Swap<br clear=3D"none=
">
                                              </font> </div>
                                            <div class=3D"yiv6205076754y_ms=
g_container"><br clear=3D"none">
                                              Any update to this vintage
                                              1999 thread?<br clear=3D"none=
">
                                              <br clear=3D"none">
                                              <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" r=
el=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.team.ne=
t/html/datsun-roadsters/1999-11/msg00700.html">http://www.team.net/html/dat=
sun-roadsters/1999-11/msg00700.html</a><br clear=3D"none">
                                              <br clear=3D"none">
                                              Are there functional,
                                              plug-and-play
                                              substitutions for the late
                                              roadster <br clear=3D"none">
                                              3/4" rear wheel cylinders
                                              from other period Datsun
                                              brake parts?<br clear=3D"none=
">
                                              <br clear=3D"none">
                                              Such as rear wheel
                                              cylinders from the 1200,
                                              B210, 510, 617, 710?<br clear=
=3D"none">
                                              <br clear=3D"none">
                                              Did the debate over how to
                                              get more braking action at
                                              the rear (by using <br clear=
=3D"none">
                                              either 11/16 or 13/16
                                              cylinders) ever conclude?<br =
clear=3D"none">
                                              <br clear=3D"none">
                                              Thanks.<br clear=3D"none">
                                              <br clear=3D"none">
                                              - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex</d=
iv>
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