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Re: Rebuild, new or high torque starter

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Subject: Re: Rebuild, new or high torque starter
From: "Sven Koch" <sk-svenkoch@gmx.de>
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 13:06:58 +0100
Thanks to all for your help.
Will see, how I could handle the problem here in Germany!

Here're some answers:

Jim Kellner wrote:


sOMETHING LIKE THIS
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-Ford-Mini-PMGR-Racing-Starter-302-351-Hig
her-Torque_W0QQitemZ370015679624QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item370015679624


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jim Kelliher 
To: sk-svenkoch@gmx.de 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 7:46 PM
Subject: starter


Whats your timing set at?
Will it jump start?
Is this your first time starting it since your mods?
 
If you ned a starter Iwould recommend the newer style PMG starter. There is
a little bit of wiring involved but worth it. There is a solenoid mounted
right to the starter.
Ive been using one for years now with no problems.
Jim

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John T. Blair schrieb: 
At 06:30 PM 1/20/2008 +0100, Sven Koch wrote:

  
My original starter seems to pack up soon. During the restoration of #2224
I've rebuilt this motor, because it was seized through the years.....

I already tried to connect the battery with the solenoid with a bigger wire
without any changes. Could the starter solenoid be the problem??
    

Sven,

It's possible, but unlikely.  Usually when the solenoid fails, you'll hear
a loud click and it make contact internally but the engine won't turn
over.  This is because the contacts have burned away and the plunger is
not making contact across both sets of contacts.  For more information
on this check out my article: Electrical Primer - Part 3 - The Starting 
System at  http://www.team.net/www/morgan/tech/art026.html


However, a solenoid for the Bricklin is about a $15 US part.  So it may
be worth the gamble.  I've had luck taking them apart and turning the 
contacts over and putting them back together.  You'll have to drill out
the rivits.

  
My question is: should I buy a normal rebuilt Ford starter or a high torque
version?? If I need a heavy duty one could anyone give me a suggestion?
    

I can't help with any info on a heavy duty one.  I just looked up starters
for a 75 Ford Granada, and they don't list a heavy duty one.  However,
I did see this:

"INSTALLATION ALERT! This starter sensitive to high battery cable
resistance; check cables to avoid mis-diagnosing a starting problem."

So be sure that all the battery cables connectors are clean, and that the
ground strap between the engine and chassis is intact and both ends are 
clean.  Also make sure that the connection to the chassis for both the 
battery ground and engine ground straps are clean.

John

----------  
Sven, 

I installed a smaller high torque starter. Since I was having issues with
clearence from full length headers.  It is small, aluminum and adjustable. I
am not sure of the manufacturer, but there are several that sell the same
starter.  It was a good fit on mine and has worked well over the past year. 

Greg 0036 




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