This may be none of my business, but the <G> in John
Kelly's original post, regarding getting into Crows
Landing in September and not March, means "grin", a
literal person's :), meaning it was intended in good
humor. So, y'all are fighting over a BIG
misunderstanding. All of you please stop now, before
this gets stupid.
Sticking with the real issue, it's great that we'll
get Crows Landing in September! And to think we'd have
to wait all the way 'til March! :) <----- Dad, you
should start using these.
-Katie
--- Jim Martin <james_martin@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> John,
>
> I was on the Steering Committee for a few years
> (with you) when I started
> working on getting Crows back.
>
> You finally told me (recently) you had been calling
> people for years when
> you knew that I was still working on our return
> there.
>
> The Navy said they got pissed at whoever was calling
> them to return there as
> they were not going through the proper channels.
> Sorry I assumed it was you
> but you were never up-front with me even when I
> always gave you the latest
> on the site.
>
> Jim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John F. Kelly Jr."
> <76067.1750@compuserve.com>
> To: "Jim Martin" <james_martin@worldnet.att.net>
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 8:45 PM
> Subject: Re: Crows Landing Airport
>
>
> > The guy who called the Navy at Moffet Field was
> one David Vodden, business
> > manager for San Francisco Region. Then and now.
> Well his title has changed
> > a little. What Mr. Vodden requested was for the
> U.S. Navy to hand over
> > jurisdiction of Crows Landing to him and to SCCA
> San Francisco Region. The
> > first problem was the Navy brass at Moffett Field
> didn't know we were
> > there!
> >
> > Next time do your research
> >
> > And I want a PUBLIC apology and be sure to spell
> it right and spell my
> name
> > right, too.
> >
> > As for operating behind your back, you are not a
> member of the Solo II
> > Steering Committee and, to the best of my
> knowledge, never have been. You
> > live in Modesto, CA, and it's wonderful that you
> possibly made contact
> with
> > officialdom. Is that why you asked the Region for
> a $10,000 advance on
> > expenses?
> >
> > Recalling this was over 10 years ago, I called Art
> Seeger after all of the
> > above and inquired what could I do to help to get
> SFR Solo II back into
> > Crows Landing. I called the people he suggested.
> If you don't know the
> role
> > Art Seeger played in Crows Landing then you don't
> know anything. After I
> > called Moffett Field way back then, curiously
> enough, we got Crows Landing
> > back, at least until NASA took it over.
> >
> > Let's make that clear. My phone call got
> the place back.
> >
> > As for Richard Jantz, the No. 2 man in San Joaquin
> County, I called him
> > several times AFTER I was appointed scheduling and
> site-finding person.
> > (Serving 1999-2002) It was my official role in the
> Region for four years.
> > You have never held such a role in the Solo II
> Steering Committee. Plus, I
> > have NEVER asked for a $10,000 fee to land Crows
> Landing as you did. If
> > Mr. Jantz is mad at me let him tell me not you. To
> the best of my
> > knowledge, you do not represent Mr. Jantz.
> >
> > Now please send that apology so everybody on the
> list can read it. NOW!
> >
> > --John Kelly
> >
> > PS. This above is what I will post if you do not
> apologize quickly, by 3
> > p.m. June 3, 2003.-jk
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