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Re: Limiting Entries

To: navid@interwoven.com
Subject: Re: Limiting Entries
From: Pat Kelly <lollipop@ricochet.net>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 18:33:36 -0700
We've found that only a very few T&S crews can handle any faster turnover than
20 seconds; usually 25 works out just fine; even at Topeka. You get too many
cars too close and other problems crop up, like a faster car catching a slower
car, all three on course (or four) have to have reruns, further delaying the
event.
--Pat Kelly

Navid Kahangi wrote:

> Doug,
>
> Valid concern, not a good solution!  If you shorten the overlap to 15
> seconds, you better up your 4.5 runs to 6.  With a 15 second overlap, 2
> cones down means a rerun for the next car.  Next car stops to point out the
> down cone, the 3rd car has to be red flagged.  Since with 15 second overlaps
> you might have 4 cars on the course, the 4th one will also get a rerun.
>
> I really don't think we can shorten the overlap to less than 25 seconds.
>
> --Navid
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of
> > dagmlist@mindspring.com
> > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 5:22 PM
> > To: ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Limiting Entries
> >
> >
> > I have a couple concerns about limiting entries.
> >
> > Mainly I (and I am sure I am not alone) have a 2 hour drive each
> > way to Candlestick.  This means that if I run in the afternoon
> > I'm still leaving the house no later than 9:00AM to arrive with
> > enough time to comfortably register, tech, and change tires
> > before 12:00.  Saturday was a 14+ hour day for me (leave 9:00 AM,
> > Arrive 11:00A, Run (8th group), Dinner, Home ~11:00 PM).  My
> > concern is that SFR would turn in to DeAnza, and I'd have to
> > leave home at 5 AM for every event.
> >
> > The other point is that I am not convinced that limiting entries
> > is the best solution to the problem.  After running some numbers
> > in a spreadsheet, it looks like the key is course design, and
> > keeping a proper overlap.  Here are the numbers I ran:
> >
> > 300 entrants, 4.5 runs/entrant (take care of re-runs and red
> > flags), 5 minutes between groups, 30 minutes for lunch/mid day
> > course walk.  9:00 start.  With a 20 second overlap, you are done
> > at 5:30.  a 25 second overlap adds almost two hours, and you get
> > out at 7:22.  If you can shorten the overlap to 15 seconds, you
> > are finished at 3:37, and have plenty of time for fun runs.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > --
> > Doug Gentges
> > dgentges@mindspring.com
> >


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