Hello All!
Rick,
First of all,I have been complaining and writing
letters for two years now.
So dont think for a moment that we were ok with
classing the Neon with the Type R.
I also cant figure out why YOU are spearheadding the
"Lets make the Neon Uncompetitive" movement.
Didnt YOU beat all of the Neons at the Pro in
Wendover this year? Why would someone worry about a
car they just trounced. Talk about kicking a car when
its down.
David Fauth will tell you that his Type R is faster
than his Neon.
I have also been very outspoken about what would have
happened if DADDIO was in a Type R in the same class
as the Neon. I dont believe that this discussion would
even be taking place and there wouldn't be a question
on where the Neon should be classed.
Sorry about the reyline, I wanted to be sure you read
this email.
Take care.
DARBY
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Rick Cone aka ConeKiller <rickcone@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
> <<<<<<<<< Private Reply >>>>>>>>>>>
>
> Well call it being just a little bitter. This
> proposal has been out for a
> year and a half. For a year and a half the Neon has
> been in DS. (poster car
> for the class). Then, the SEB sends it up to the
> BOD for approval with the
> Neon moved to GS. Kinda sneaky since there was no
> time for counter input.
> Especially since I have heard NO rumblings about the
> Neon being in DS. When
> did all these people speak up?
>
> I had to make a phone call to the Chairman of the
> BOD, to ugre him to table
> the whole proposal.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phillip Osborne" <psosborn@gte.net>
> To: "Rick Cone" <rickcone@bellsouth.net>; "Team.Net"
> <autox@autox.team.net>;
> "Evolution" <evolution-discussions@yahoogroups.com>;
> "Tyson D Sawyer"
> <tyson@rwii.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [evolution-disc.] Re: The Dadio Factor
> NOT!
>
>
> > I am the one who asked if anyone in your region
> had beaten Rupp in a
> > Neon...Ok, so Shields beat him. What does that
> prove? Shields is a
> better
> > driver? So put Shields in the Celica, and Rupp in
> the Neon, then see who
> > wins...My money would be on Shields and the
> Celica, taking nothing away
> from
> > Rupp who is also a good driver...However, you may
> have to let Sheilds take
> > the Celica and massage it a bit...8-)
> > I still don't see any proof that the Neon would be
> an overdog for the new
> > GS. If it is, so is the Probe GT, MX6, Camaro
> performane V6 pkg, and of
> > course the Celicas, GT and GTS, take your pick...
> > Cmon Rick, based on stuff I've seen you post over
> the years, you're
> smarter
> > than that...8-)
> > Phil O.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rick Cone" <rickcone@bellsouth.net>
> > To: "Team.Net" <autox@autox.team.net>; "Evolution"
> > <evolution-discussions@yahoogroups.com>; "Tyson D
> Sawyer" <tyson@rwii.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 4:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: [evolution-disc.] Re: The Dadio
> Factor NOT!
> >
> >
> > > Well excuse me for reading too deep into your
> message. You ask who has
> > > beaten Rupp. And I tell you Shields beat all
> Celica's. Guess what he
> did
> > > beat all 00+ Celica's and that's what you were
> looking for.
> > >
> > > Your grasping at straws to keep you car
> competitive in Solo2. I admire
> > > that. But the fact is the Neon is a proven
> overdog for the class.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Tyson D Sawyer" <tyson@rwii.com>
> > > To: "Team.Net" <autox@autox.team.net>;
> "Evolution"
> > > <evolution-discussions@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 4:24 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [evolution-disc.] Re: The Dadio
> Factor NOT!
> > >
> > >
> > > > Rick,
> > > >
> > > > Now you are just plain lying.
> > > >
> > > > 2000 Nationals:
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Cashmore - 113.551
> > > > Danny Shields - 113.565
> > > >
> > > > Ty
> > > >
> > > > Rick Cone wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >. I think someone in
> > > > > > Rick's own region has proved the potential
> of the new Celica.
> > Anyone
> > > > > beaten
> > > > > > Mr. Rupp in a Neon?.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill Hughes did it at Peru last year. Danny
> Shileds was faster then
> > > EVERY
> > > > > Celica at Nationals 2000.
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Phillip Osborne" <psosborn@gte.net>
> > > > > To: "Team.Net" <autox@autox.team.net>
> > > > > Cc: "Evolution"
> <evolution-discussions@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 2:21 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: The Dadio Factor NOT!
> > > > >
> > > > > > I take exception to Rick's analogy. Sorry
> Rick, no malice
> > > intended...His
> > > > > > reasoning to me for Neons remaining
> > > > > > in the new D Stock, rather than be placed
> in the new G Stock, is
> > that
> > > > > Daddio
> > > > > > and others
> > > > > > were able to beat the Type R's and other G
> Stock, E Stock cars
> with
> > > Neons.
> > > > > > I don't know how many times
> > > > > > this happened, and facts related over
> years passed do not
> > necessarily
> > > > > reveal
> > > > > > the whole picture, course, rain, etc. I
> submit that Dadio, and
> > other
> > > top
> > > > > > Neon drivers, could take the
> > > > > > same Type R he beat, and win A or B stock
> with it, given enough
> > > > > developement
> > > > > > time. To take a car like the Neon, and
> say it is directly
> > competitive
> > > > > with
> > > > > > a WRX, which has had NO developement time
> yet in stock form, and a
> > > Type R,
> > > > > > that has development time and being
> improved every season, and
> say
> > > they
> > > > > > have the same potential, yet are so
> different in stock form, is
> > > certainly
> > > > > > not comparing apples to apples. How do you
> compare an open diff
> > > 132/150
> > > > > > horsepower front driver to a LSD, 195hp
> car of nearly the same
> > weight?
> > > > > Look
> > > > > > at the difference in wheel size, 14x6 vs
> 16x7.5! Take away the
> > > limited
> > > > > > slip, and the advantage still goes to Type
> R. And the WRX, with
> it's
> > > 224
> > > > > hp,
> > > > > > available 17" wheels, awd, and limited
> slip, is miles ahead, even
> > with
> > > > > it's
> > > > > > relatively heavy curb weight.
> > > > > > To go a step further, give Daddio a Celica
> GT, or GTS, and watch
> him
> > > beat
> > > > > > Type R's with that after a bit of
> development time. To say that
> the
> > > new
> > > > > > Celicas
> > > > > > are not competitive with Neons is a bit of
> a stretch. I think
> > someone
> > > in
> > > > > > Rick's own region has proved the potential
> of the new Celica.
> > Anyone
> > > > > beaten
> > > > > > Mr. Rupp in a Neon?.
> > > > > > Neon drivers, you need to present your
> argument to the SEB, or you
>
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