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That is a good point.=C2=A0 The horns must have a good ground, too.=C2=A0 =
The relay is grounded through the horn push to the steering shaft through t=
he link wire around the rubber coupling to the rack and through a ground li=
nk from the rack to the frame.=C2=A0 Any issues with that chain of events w=
ill cause the problem.=C2=A0 Jumpering the relay will bypass all the steeri=
ng column connections and will be a good diagnosis tool.=C2=A0=20
Check the easy stuff first.
For your self-beeping problem, it may be something as simple as the plastic=
sleeve for the bush that connects the horn push to the slip ring.=C2=A0 Th=
at is no more problem to replace than pulling the horn push out, extracting=
the old bush assembly and replacing it.
=20
Dave=20
=20
=20
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From: im sloane <im_sloane@hotmail.com>
To: 6pack@autox.team.net <6pack@autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Aug 21, 2020 12:44 am
Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 horn relay
#yiv2512801405 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}I'm no Dan Masters, but I'v=
e always found the most likely culprit is not getting a solid ground from t=
he horn button, especially if it works sometimes, when wiggling the wheel, =
etc. You can connect the purple/black wire as the negative end of a test li=
ght to check. All the little stuff inside the steering wheel must be just r=
ight. The steering column itself must have a solid ground (to send to the r=
elay via the button). Check the ground wire that goes thru/around the steer=
ing column rubber coupling and the ground wire that connects to the steerin=
g gear box.=C2=A0
=C2=A0Mine 'self blows' when I'm hard cornering, which always makes my wife=
laugh. Yea, I know that problem comes from inside the wheel/button. Someda=
y..
Sloane69-Six72-Spit
From: 6pack <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of DAVID MASSEY <dave1=
massey@cs.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 6:51 PM
To: dctr6@optonline.net <dctr6@optonline.net>; 6pack@autox.team.net <6pack@=
autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 horn relay=C2=A0
I have found that the horns themselves stop working.=C2=A0 New, Italian-mat=
e horns are available at the local parts stores for around $10 each.=C2=A0 =
But check them out first.
Dave=20
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To: 6pack@autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, Aug 20, 2020 1:15 pm
Subject: [6pack] TR6 horn relay
=C2=A0 A newbie question from a 31-year 1976 TR6 owner =E2=80=93 Where=E2=
=80=99s the horn relay? Horn is working only very occasionally and I figure=
the easiest first thing to look at is the contacts on the relay.=C2=A0 I=
=E2=80=99ve included a picture of the fuse box area and a few of the relays=
=E2=80=93 which one is the horn or is it somewhere else? =C2=A0I have Dan =
Master=E2=80=99s book so if it=E2=80=99s not the relay, I know where to go =
next. Thanks.=C2=A0 Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY__________________________=
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<div> <font size=3D"3">That is a good point. The horns must have a go=
od ground, too. The relay is grounded through the horn push to the st=
eering shaft through the link wire around the rubber coupling to the rack a=
nd through a ground link from the rack to the frame. Any issues with =
that chain of events will cause the problem. Jumpering the relay will=
bypass all the steering column connections and will be a good diagnosis to=
ol. <br>
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<div><font size=3D"3">Check the easy stuff first.</font></div>
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</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3">For your self-beeping problem, it may be something as=
simple as the plastic sleeve for the bush that connects the horn push to t=
he slip ring. That is no more problem to replace than pulling the hor=
n push out, extracting the old bush assembly and replacing it.</font><br>
</div>
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</div>
<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
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Original Message-----<br>
From: im sloane <im_sloane@hotmail.com><br>
To: 6pack@autox.team.net <6pack@autox.team.net><br>
Sent: Fri, Aug 21, 2020 12:44 am<br>
Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 horn relay<br>
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or:rgb(0, 0, 0);">
I'm no Dan Masters, but I've always found the most likely culprit is not ge=
tting a solid ground from the horn button, especially if it works sometimes=
, when wiggling the wheel, etc. You can connect the purple/black wire as th=
e negative end of a test light to
check. All the little stuff inside the steering wheel must be just right. =
The steering column itself must have a solid ground (to send to the relay v=
ia the button). Check the ground wire that goes thru/around the steering co=
lumn rubber coupling and the ground
wire that connects to the steering gear box. </div>
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or:rgb(0, 0, 0);">
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or:rgb(0, 0, 0);">
Mine 'self blows' when I'm hard cornering, which always makes my wife=
laugh. Yea, I know that problem comes from inside the wheel/button. Someda=
y..</div>
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or:rgb(0, 0, 0);">
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or:rgb(0, 0, 0);">
Sloane</div>
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or:rgb(0, 0, 0);">
69-Six</div>
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or:rgb(0, 0, 0);">
72-Spit</div>
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lt;6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of DAVID MASSEY <dave1mass=
ey@cs.com><br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 20, 2020 6:51 PM<br clear=3D"none">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [6pack] TR6 horn relay</font>
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<div><font size=3D"3">I have found that the horns themselves stop working.&=
nbsp; New, Italian-mate horns are available at the local parts stores for a=
round $10 each. But check them out first.
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nt-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">
A newbie question from a 31-year 1976 TR6 owner =E2=80=93 Where=E2=
=80=99s the horn relay? Horn is working only very occasionally and I figure=
the easiest first thing to look at is the contacts on the relay. I=
=E2=80=99ve included a picture of the fuse box area and a few of the relays
=E2=80=93 which one is the horn or is it somewhere else? I have Dan =
Master=E2=80=99s book so if it=E2=80=99s not the relay, I know where to go =
next. Thanks. Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY
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