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Re: [6pack] Intermittent ground?

To: David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>, 6-Pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Intermittent ground?
From: John Cyganowski via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:07:54 +0000 (UTC)
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Dave-
Glad it worked out.=C2=A0 I was losing those instruments and devices interm=
ittently among other issues.
Once I realized they were all on the same circuit, with some manipulation a=
nd they would come back only to go again.=C2=A0 So I replaced the fuse box.=
=C2=A0 This resolved about 95% of the issues.
Corrosion is maybe too strong a word - but oxidation will certainly occur o=
ver time and impact the contacts.
Best of Luck-John


      From: David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>
 To: John Cyganowski <janah@att.net>; 6-Pack <6pack@autox.team.net>=20
 Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 4:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [6pack] Intermittent ground?
  =20
Thanks, John. Your thought process on this is quite good. It turned out tha=
t the problem was solved this afternoon, by simply removing the fuse, light=
ly sanding its metal ends, then reinserting it into the fuse clips! I knew =
something was quite there when I measured zero volts on one end of the fuse=
 and 12.65 on the other! Prior to that, the heater fan, the turn signals, t=
he wipers, the brake lights and the two gauges didn't work. I re-inserted t=
hat fuse and it's like 20,000 volts into Frankenstein's monster. It LIVES! =
Being as the fuse box is relatively new, as are the fuses, it was hard to i=
magine (or SEE) any corrosion that could cause such chaos! All from one gre=
en circuit fuse! It's been a long tome since everything worked so having ev=
erything back at the same time is like having a party with old, long-lost f=
riends! LOL!

Special kudos to IM Sloane for helping me think through this latest 'advent=
ure'....

Thanks for responding,

Dave



On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 3:56 PM, John Cyganowski <janah@att.net> wrote:

<snip> I have been trying to track down the gremlin that's keeping my fuel =
and temp gauges from working. I'll start up the car and those two gauges do=
n't function (the voltage and oil pressure gauges work fine). After maybe 1=
5 or 20 minutes of
driving, they'll suddenly kick on and stay on for the rest of the trip. Som=
e trips, they
don't come on at all. <snip>
David-
Those 2 gauges are on the same power circuit.=C2=A0 Have someone sit in the=
 car while idling, monitoring the gauges.
You push on (I think the top terminals of the fuse box (I think)=C2=A0 See =
what that does.=C2=A0 If your gauges come up, then I think you need to repl=
ace the fuse box (not too expensive or difficult (getting the 2 screws out =
is the hard part.)
The TR6 fuse boxes were riveted together.=C2=A0 After 40 years of vibration=
 and corrosion, they sometimes fail.
Regards-John CygCC92527LO70 Damson




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>Dave-</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1471517989764_5117"><br></div><div=
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s losing those instruments and devices intermittently among other issues.</=
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ui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1471517989764_5128">Once I realized they were all on the s=
ame circuit, with some manipulation and they would come back only to go aga=
in.&nbsp; So I replaced the fuse box.&nbsp; This resolved about 95% of the =
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v id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1471517989764_5180">Corrosion is maybe too strong=
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d=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1471517989764_5243">Best of Luck-</div><div>John<br>=
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><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> David Friedlander &lt;f=
orzion7@gmail.com&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span><=
/b> John Cyganowski &lt;janah@att.net&gt;; 6-Pack &lt;6pack@autox.team.net&=
gt; <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, =
August 17, 2016 4:22 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:<=
/span></b> Re: [6pack] Intermittent ground?<br> </font> </div> <div id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1471517989764_5247" class=3D"y_msg_container"><br><div id=
=3D"yiv9259425532"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1471517989764_5246"><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1471517989764_5245" dir=3D"ltr"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
_ym19_1_1471517989764_5244" class=3D"yiv9259425532gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,153);">Thanks, John. You=
r thought process on this is quite good. It turned out that the problem was=
 solved this afternoon, by simply removing the fuse, lightly sanding its me=
tal ends, then reinserting it into the fuse clips! I knew <i>something</i> =
was quite there when I measured zero volts on one end of the fuse and 12.65=
 on the other! Prior to that, the heater fan, the turn signals, the wipers,=
 the brake lights and the two gauges didn't work. I re-inserted that fuse a=
nd it's like 20,000 volts into Frankenstein's monster. It LIVES! Being as t=
he fuse box is relatively new, as are the fuses, it was hard to imagine (<u=
>or</u> <u>SEE</u>) <b>any </b>corrosion that could cause such chaos! All f=
rom one green circuit fuse! It's been a long tome since everything worked s=
o having everything back at the same time is like having a party with old, =
long-lost friends! LOL!<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div cla=
ss=3D"yiv9259425532gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-=
serif;color:rgb(0,0,153);">Special kudos to IM Sloane for helping me think =
through this latest 'adventure'....<br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"y=
iv9259425532gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;c=
olor:rgb(0,0,153);"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv9259425532gma=
il_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,15=
3);">Thanks for responding,<br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv925942=
5532gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;color:rgb=
(0,0,153);"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv9259425532gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,153);">Dav=
e<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div></div><div =
class=3D"yiv9259425532yqt3417277644" id=3D"yiv9259425532yqt07467"><div clas=
s=3D"yiv9259425532gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv92594255=
32gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 3:56 PM, John Cyganowski <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:janah@att=
.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:janah@att.net";>janah@att.net</a>&gt;=
</span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><blockquote class=3D"yiv9259425532gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
;"><div><div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:Helvetic=
aNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-siz=
e:16px;"><div dir=3D"ltr">&lt;snip&gt; I have been trying to track down the=
 gremlin that's keeping my fuel and temp gauges from working. I'll start up=
 the car and those two gauges don't function (the voltage and oil pressure =
gauges work fine). After maybe 15 or 20 minutes of<span class=3D"yiv9259425=
532"><br clear=3D"none">driving, they'll suddenly kick on and stay on for t=
he rest of the trip. Some trips, they<br clear=3D"none"></span>don't come o=
n at all. &lt;snip&gt;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">David-</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Those 2 gauges are on the same power circuit.&nbsp; Have someone s=
it in the car while idling, monitoring the gauges.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">You push on (I think the top termin=
als of the fuse box (I think)&nbsp; See what that does.&nbsp; If your gauge=
s come up, then I think you need to replace the fuse box (not too expensive=
 or difficult (getting the 2 screws out is the hard part.)</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The TR6 fuse boxes were riv=
eted together.&nbsp; After 40 years of vibration and corrosion, they someti=
mes fail.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">R=
egards-</div><div dir=3D"ltr">John Cyg</div><div dir=3D"ltr">CC92527LO</div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">70 Damson<br clear=3D"none"></div></div></div></blockquot=
e></div><br clear=3D"none"></div></div></div></div><br><br></div> </div> </=
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