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1. Umbrellas (score: 1): Author: "Glenn Duensing" <rebel128@earthlink.net>; Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 10:43:40 -0700; Thanks to all for your in put. Glenn Duensing GMD Enterprises web: www.gmd4cones.com/autox /// autox@autox.team.net mailing list /// /// To unsubscribe send a plain text message to majordomo@autox.te; /html/autox/2001-08/msg00007.html (6,420 bytes)
2. Umbrellas (score: 1): Author: "Glenn Duensing" <rebel128@earthlink.net>; Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 17:39:12 -0700; Okay here's the question. Does your Region allow umbrellas on course? Thanks. Glenn Duensing GMD Enterprises web: www.gmd4cones.com/autox /// autox@autox.team.net mailing list /// /// To unsubscribe; /html/autox/2001-07/msg00572.html (7,451 bytes)
3. Re: Umbrellas (score: 1): Author: washburn <washburn@dwave.net>; Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 18:57:05 -0500; Only if there is no red color on it. Pat /// autox@autox.team.net mailing list /// /// To unsubscribe send a plain text message to majordomo@autox.team.net /// with nothing in it but /// /// unsubscr; /html/autox/2001-07/msg00574.html (7,313 bytes)
4. Re: Umbrellas (score: 1): Author: Eric Linnhoff <knuckledragger@kcweb.net>; Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 20:46:26 -0700; The KC region does or more appropriately doesn't disallow them. We prefer they not be bright red of course. ;^) I can tell you that as a course worker however that they're incredibly obtrusive to kee; /html/autox/2001-07/msg00575.html (8,040 bytes)
5. Re: Umbrellas (score: 1): Author: "Phil Ethier" <pethier@isd.net>; Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 00:33:17 -0500; What region are you talking about, Pat, Milwaukee? In the Twin Cities, we don't use red flags, so color on course is irrelevant. The traditional way stopping a car for safety reasons is the "I am not; /html/autox/2001-07/msg00578.html (8,735 bytes)
6. Re: Umbrellas (score: 1): Author: Kevin Stevens <Kevin_Stevens@Pursued-With.Net>; Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 23:08:55 -0700; Geez, does that get the job done? I have a hard enough time decoupling enough to recognize a waving flag. KeS /// autox@autox.team.net mailing list /// /// To unsubscribe send a plain text message to; /html/autox/2001-07/msg00580.html (8,915 bytes)
7. Re: Umbrellas (score: 1): Author: "Phil Ethier" <pethier@isd.net>; Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 10:52:23 -0500; Absolutely. It has worked here for us since before there was such a thing as Solo II. We don't expect a person to find a waving flag. Or recognize a color (what about all the men who are red-green co; /html/autox/2001-07/msg00591.html (9,120 bytes)
8. Re: Umbrellas (score: 1): Author: Kevin Stevens <Kevin_Stevens@pursued-with.net>; Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 20:10:21 -0700 (PDT); Well, obviously if it works it works! But as a driver I'd be concerned about my head swelling up and popping my helmet with all those workers worshipping me. ;) KeS /// autox@autox.team.net mailing l; /html/autox/2001-07/msg00597.html (9,270 bytes)
9. Re: Umbrellas (score: 1): Author: "Rocky Entriken" <rocky@tri.net>; Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 22:22:30 -0500; That doesn't say "stop" to me. It says "slow down." Color blind? On a solo II course the only flag out there is a red one. If all I can see is black and white and I see a flag, it's red. Several peop; /html/autox/2001-07/msg00598.html (10,785 bytes)
10. Re: Umbrellas (score: 1): Author: "Phil Ethier" <pethier@isd.net>; Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 00:01:15 -0500; There is no "slow down" in autocross. This ain't a road race. If you slow down, your run is trashed, so you might as well stop. A worker will signal you when to start you half-speed cruise in with yo; /html/autox/2001-07/msg00600.html (10,710 bytes)
11. Re: Umbrellas (score: 1): Author: Kevin Stevens <Kevin_Stevens@pursued-with.net>; Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 22:05:07 -0700 (PDT); Too broad a brush, Phil. There's nothing in the SCCA Solo II handbook about needing instructions to stop a event (well, a run), nor have I ever heard any such directive or seen it on any sup for any; /html/autox/2001-07/msg00601.html (8,618 bytes)
12. Re: Umbrellas (score: 1): Author: "Phil Ethier" <pethier@isd.net>; Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 00:21:35 -0500; I'm sorry that I was not clear about the breadth of my brush. See below. I was only referring to Rocky's description of a few workers authorized hold the red flags, awaiting orders by radio. I have n; /html/autox/2001-07/msg00602.html (9,750 bytes)
13. Re: Umbrellas (score: 1): Author: "Patrick Washburn" <washburn@dwave.net>; Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 07:49:20 -0500; I think Phil's point here, if I may interject, is to say that sometimes when one person is charged with the flag responsibility the tendency is for the other workers to look to him/her before acting.; /html/autox/2001-07/msg00606.html (9,387 bytes)
14. Re: Umbrellas (score: 1): Author: "Mark J. Andy" <marka@telerama.com>; Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:14:35 -0400 (EDT); Huh? If a worker is telling you to do _anything_ during a run, you better just stop and figure out what the heck they want. Five times outta ten, a car that gets redflagged is actually stopped by an; /html/autox/2001-07/msg00611.html (9,613 bytes)
15. Re: Umbrellas (score: 1): Author: bfuhrman@isd.net; Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 16:49:49 GMT; If someone signals in a manner that I think means to slow down, I will slow down as I get near them and continue to do so to a stop until they tell or signal me to continue. If you misread a stop as; /html/autox/2001-07/msg00617.html (9,151 bytes)
16. Re: Umbrellas (score: 1): Author: "Rocky Entriken" <rocky@tri.net>; Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:01:27 -0500; hold Actually, IMHO Phil is part right. If a worker sees a situation he thinks warranting stopping a car, we tell him to go ahead and stop it. Dunno how many times I've seen a car stopped and thought; /html/autox/2001-07/msg00627.html (9,632 bytes)
17. Re: Umbrellas (score: 1): Author: John Lieberman <johnlee@softdisk.com>; Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:10:08 -0500; IMNSHO, the person who has the red flag at a worker station should also have the radio. That way, there's no delay in getting the word out to red flag a car. John (Old Fartz & TLS #37) Lieberman ///; /html/autox/2001-07/msg00628.html (10,358 bytes)
18. Re: Umbrellas (score: 1): Author: Gail/Sid deLeon <deleon@sstar.com>; Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:41:51 -0500; You have to be very careful holding an umbrella if there is lightning. Gail deLeon /// autox@autox.team.net mailing list /// /// To unsubscribe send a plain text message to majordomo@autox.team.net /; /html/autox/2001-07/msg00630.html (10,055 bytes)
19. Re: Umbrellas (score: 1): Author: "Rocky Entriken" <rocky@tri.net>; Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:14:36 -0500; I wish you'd been on a corner with me and two others several years ago at a MiDiv Divisional in a driving rain. We had one of those big golf umbrellas and all three of us were behind it. Not under i; /html/autox/2001-07/msg00632.html (9,408 bytes)
20. Re: Umbrellas (score: 1): Author: Eric Linnhoff <knuckledragger@kcweb.net>; Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 22:24:02 -0700; Just make that umbrella out of an old 1 iron golf club. As the joke goes, "Even God can't hit a 1 iron." ;^) Hey, don't holler, I love the Big Guy. Eric Linnhoff in KC '98 Neon R/T (see-dan) knuckled; /html/autox/2001-07/msg00640.html (8,597 bytes)

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