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21. RE: Air line piping (score: 1): Author: "Randall" <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:34:10 -0800; Also in southern CA for several years now, possibly only after Sears bought them. I'd rate them no more than mediocre ... but they do carry just a few items that Home Despot doesn't, like "piano" (s; /html/shop-talk/2006-12/msg00130.html (9,445 bytes)
22. Re: Air line piping (score: 1): Author: Chris Kantarjiev <cak@dimebank.com>; Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:34:57 -0800 (PST); I can't see any reason for a home mechanic *not* to go with copper. It's easy to work with and easy to modify. Make the main run out of 3/4 or 1" to have some extra capacity. Use a T and two Ls for e; /html/shop-talk/2006-12/msg00131.html (8,468 bytes)
23. RE: Air line piping (score: 1): Author: "Randall" <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:38:15 -0800; As I've heard it, it's Egypt rather than Everywhere. John's second word is a euphemism for the actual word, too. Of course, there's also British Frame and Engine, but hopefully the meaning is clear; /html/shop-talk/2006-12/msg00132.html (9,386 bytes)
24. Re: Air line piping (score: 1): Author: Mark Andy <mark@sccaprepared.com>; Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:42:28 -0500 (EST); I've got one as well (which is why I brought it up). It's always been just fine for the low volume "around the house" stuff I've needed it for (up to 1"). Here's the vice, btw: http://www.harborfrei; /html/shop-talk/2006-12/msg00134.html (9,196 bytes)
25. Re: Air line piping (score: 1): Author: Mark Andy <mark@sccaprepared.com>; Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:43:15 -0500 (EST); And that's really handy if you have the ability to see into the future to determine what length you're going to need... Mark; /html/shop-talk/2006-12/msg00135.html (8,286 bytes)
26. RE: Air line piping (score: 1): Author: pethier@comcast.net; Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:18:17 +0000; D J Leary, a frequent guest on Almanac, a Twin Cities TV show for public-affairs junkies, gave us one that I had not heard before: "Yeah, that's fine in The Cities, but what do the folks out in East; /html/shop-talk/2006-12/msg00139.html (9,473 bytes)
27. RE: Air line piping (score: 1): Author: "Randall" <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:42:31 -0800; Really ? You're not allowed to drive a copper stake in the ground ? I would have thought the stake would be better ... less likely to be cut accidentally, and more likely to stay in contact with dam; /html/shop-talk/2006-12/msg00141.html (9,014 bytes)
28. Re: Air line piping (score: 1): Author: John Miller <jem@milleredp.com>; Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:48:49 -0800; The city here does not permit *any* metal in contact with the ground. John.; /html/shop-talk/2006-12/msg00142.html (8,153 bytes)
29. Re: Air line piping (score: 1): Author: pethier@comcast.net; Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 01:48:11 +0000; Interesting. In Saint Paul, I was told to direct-bury soft copper tubing for the natural gas run from the house to the shop. Gas inspector came out and approved my installation before I backfilled it; /html/shop-talk/2006-12/msg00143.html (8,864 bytes)
30. Re: Air line piping (score: 1): Author: Roland Wilhelmy <rwil@sbcglobal.net>; Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 18:06:52 -0800; It is probably a function of soil characteristics including ph and moisture levels. Some soils will eat metal pipe or grounds. Driven grounds are not always very good unless you live on a salt marsh.; /html/shop-talk/2006-12/msg00144.html (8,821 bytes)
31. Re: Air line piping (score: 1): Author: Doug Braun <doug@dougbraun.com>; Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 18:08:58 -0800 (PST); What is "Ufer"? Is it something like "BFE"? Doug; /html/shop-talk/2006-12/msg00145.html (8,099 bytes)
32. Re: Air line piping (score: 1): Author: Roland Wilhelmy <rwil@sbcglobal.net>; Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 18:25:55 -0800; Ufer is the name of the guy who designed or developed or proved the effectiveness of the Ufer ground.; /html/shop-talk/2006-12/msg00146.html (8,176 bytes)
33. Re: Air line piping (score: 1): Author: "David Scheidt" <dmscheidt@gmail.com>; Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 23:21:55 -0500; It's a method of using rebar in the concrete foundation to provide safety ground. It's used where the soil is not terribly conductive, either because it's minerally deficent somehow, or it's just bon; /html/shop-talk/2006-12/msg00148.html (7,744 bytes)
34. Re: Air line piping (score: 1): Author: John Miller <jem@milleredp.com>; Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 20:51:04 -0800; Or because the soil chemistry is not friendly to metals. John.; /html/shop-talk/2006-12/msg00149.html (7,256 bytes)
35. RE: Air line piping (score: 1): Author: "Gerald Brazil" <gerrybraz@cablespeed.com>; Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 16:05:36 -0500; I haven't bothered to read all the replies, so if somebody has already mentioned this, my apologies.... Two solutions: A) Harbor Freight sells a pipe threading kit for about $40...if you want to do i; /html/shop-talk/2006-12/msg00150.html (9,420 bytes)
36. RE: Air line piping (score: 1): Author: "Mark Watson" <watsonm05@comcast.net>; Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 20:56:07 -0500; Is the product you mean "Chem Aire"? Link: http://www.nibco.com/cms.do?id=2&pId=14 Link for technical literature: http://www.nibco.com/assets/ChmairTech.pdf This looks like really neat stuff! The te; /html/shop-talk/2006-12/msg00151.html (8,523 bytes)
37. RE: Air line piping (score: 1): Author: "Gerald Brazil" <gerrybraz@cablespeed.com>; Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 22:05:23 -0500; Yes, that's it....guess I am getting a little dyslexic.....Air Chem....Chem Air.....well I was close enough that somebody figured it out... One other thing to remember.....make a flexible connection; /html/shop-talk/2006-12/msg00152.html (9,123 bytes)
38. RE: Air line piping (score: 1): Author: wmc_st@xxiii.com; Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 09:24:02 -0500; There's also a useful diagram and other info here: http://www.tptools.com/statictext/tech_notes.asp See: "Air Line Hookup - Metal Piping Diagram" -Wayne; /html/shop-talk/2006-12/msg00153.html (7,455 bytes)
39. RE: Air line piping (score: 1): Author: "Kent Sullivan" <kentsu@corvairkid.com>; Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 17:28:27 -0800; (sending again--first try last week did not get through) We used black iron pipe in my shop when it was built two years ago. Love it. At that time, Lowe's was selling nice lengths that were already p; /html/shop-talk/2006-12/msg00236.html (9,022 bytes)
40. RE: Air line piping (score: 1): Author: scott.hall@comcast.net; Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 03:49:18 +0000; how do you make a loop from iron pipe and have it tilt? I cannot visualize it--since the fittings are all right angles, doesn't the downward slope make the loop out of square to the walls? or does th; /html/shop-talk/2006-12/msg00241.html (8,358 bytes)

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